A new day, a new way! - Vaping

Are e-cigs cool?

2012-01-25T07:20:00.002-04:00

Charlie Sheen does it. Lindsay Lohan e-puffs, too. The market for smokeless smokes has lit up. Does that mean you can smoke anywhere?

I am staring at myself in the mirror, taking my very first drag of a cigarette ever. I look like a man who fought every man I ever thought about fighting, slept with every woman I ever thought about sleeping with, got a free song from every jukebox I thought about punching. There is smoke dragoning out of my mouth, a flame at the end of my cig—or, more accurately, vapor that’s designed to look like smoke, a red LED light that’s designed to look like a flame, a long metal tube with a cell phone-style battery inside that’s designed to look like a cigarette. I am cooler than a guy smoking a cigarette. I am a guy smoking a gadget. And until my wife shows me how to actually inhale my electronic cigarette into my lungs, which causes me to cough and tear, I look very, very cool.
Other people nearly as cool as me are smoking e-cigs too: Britney Spears, Jeremy Piven, Leonardo DiCaprio, Kate Moss, Paris Hilton, and Catherine Zeta-Jones. Katherine Heigl puffed on one while watching The Book of Mormon on Broadway. Charlie Sheen plans to start his own brand of e-cigs, the NicoSheen. According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the number of Americans who have smoked an e-cig more than quadrupled, from 0.6 percent of the population in 2009 to 2.7 percent in 2010. That’s more than 8 million people. Read more...

In light of everything else - What a crock...

2012-01-20T07:23:00.003-04:00

Information Update
2012-07
January 19, 2012
For immediate release

OTTAWA - Health Canada is informing Canadians that our review of Champix is now complete and the label has been updated with new information with respect to cardiovascular safety. Champix (the brand name for varenicline tartrate) is a prescription drug used to help patients quit smoking in combination with supportive counseling. Read more...

Democracy in action?

2011-12-11T16:26:00.001-04:00

EU accused of hiding support for snus!

A majority of Member States support prohibiting all forms of oral tobacco, including snus, the European Commission categorically announced in a press release in July. The basis for the statement came from a "public consultation" on tobacco laws. There were a total 85,000 responses to questions surrounding snus, tobacco advertising and the look of cigarette packages.

EU Health Commissioner, John Dalli, shortly thereafter made it clear to ministers Göran Hägglund and Maria Larsson, that the Commission had already decided to continue its export ban on snus. Read more...

Smoke-free versus Smoker-free Workplaces

2011-12-09T22:57:00.001-04:00

In 2008, the most recent year for which figures are available, the tobacco industry spent an eye-popping $29 million every day advertising and promoting their products.

In searching for solutions to the devastating impact of the tobacco epidemic, it’s easy to understand why some employers are turning to “smoker free” workplaces. After all, smoking is estimated to cost nearly $100 billion in health care costs every year and another $100 billion in lost productivity. Not to mention the more than 400,000 Americans who die every year from tobacco-related disease. So employers might think that refusing to hire smokers and even firing employees who smoke is a good idea. Wouldn’t this kind of “tough love” have the triple benefit of encouraging smokers to quit, modeling positive behavior for others and reducing a company’s health care costs?

A growing number of employers, including some leaders in health care and public health, are buying this argument. But upon sober second thought, “smoker free” workplace policies emerge as a deeply flawed strategy. Refusing employment to smokers is not the answer to the vital public health issue of smoking and tobacco-related disease. Helping smokers quit through work-based cessation programs and smoke-free workplaces is the right way to go. Read more...

E-cigarettes may contain dangerous chemicals

2011-12-09T22:45:00.001-04:00

Most people would be flabbergasted to see anyone smoking inside an office, a hospital waiting room or an airport. Yet, lately, people are smoking indoors — not traditional cigarettes, but e-cigarettes.

These are smokeless cigarettes that can look like the real thing, a pen or even a USB stick. What they all do is deliver nicotine to the smoker in a vapor form. A rechargeable battery powers a heating element that vaporizes the nicotine in a replaceable cartridge so that what's inhaled just looks like smoke.

Some E-cigarette companies claim the devices are safer and can help smokers quit. But critics say the companies' statements are unproven and their health claims are unsubstantiated. Read more...

The arguments against e-cigarettes

2011-12-09T22:39:00.001-04:00

On Monday Vancouver City Council voted to ban the use of all tobacco products in city parks.

The ban extends to e-cigarettes and I've been trying to find out why. According to an article I have just read online, the principal arguments are:

1. E-cigarettes deliver nicotine to the smoker in a vapor form and nicotine is highly addictive
2. They are unregulated and have not been sufficiently tested for safety
3. Lack of regulation and quality control means the amount of nicotine in each drag of an e-cigarette is inconsistent
4. Tests by the US Food and Drug Administration show that e-cigarettes contain harmful chemicals such as diethylene glycol, a component of antifreeze that’s toxic to humans and is banned in food and drugs
5. There were also detectable levels of a known carcinogen called nitrosamine and other toxic chemicals that users could potentially inhale
6. Health experts have expressed concern that e-cigarettes are marketed toward young people since the devices come in pink, gold or blue with flavours such as chocolate and bubble gum and there is no health warning
7. Claims that e-cigarettes can help smokers quit are unsubstantiated
8. Even if they do help smokers to quit, e-cigarettes could entice young people to start smoking. Read more...

Customs and Health Canada

2011-12-09T11:35:00.001-04:00

I had my first refusal on the 27th of October. Regardless of the time stamps of the advisories, they have been amended from the original advisories - they filled in the loop holes.

This email is in response to your inquiry regarding electronic smoking products. On March 27, 2009, Health Canada posted a Public Advisory and a Notice to Stakeholders about electronic smoking products which are available at the following URL addresses:

Public Advisory: Health Canada Advises Canadians Not to Use Electronic Cigarettes - Health Canada Advisory 2009-03-27
Notice to Stakeholders: To All Persons Interested in Importing, Advertising or Selling Electronic Smoking Products in Canada - Health Canada Notice 2009-03-27
Notice to All Persons Interested in Importing, Advertising or Selling Electronic Smoking Products in Canada:To All Persons Interested in Importing, Advertising or Selling Electronic Smoking Products in Canada - Health Canada Notice 2009-03-27

As per this advisory/notice, electronic cigarettes fall within the scope of the Food and Drugs Act and Regulations. As such, market authorization must be granted by Health Canada prior the importation and sale of these products in Canada. Currently, no electronic smoking products have been granted market authorization in Canada.

The Therapeutic Products Directorate (TPD) of Health Canada is the Canadian federal authority that regulates pharmaceutical drugs and medical devices for human use. Prior to being given market authorization, a manufacturer must submit substantive scientific evidence of a product's safety, efficacy and quality as required by the Food and Drugs Act and Regulations. .This is done through the filing of a drug submission to the TPD.
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Here is some additional information to clarify the classification of electronic cigarettes under the Food and Drugs Act:

a non-refillable disposable electronic smoking product (e.g., e-cigarette) prefilled with nicotine (or any other drug or Natural Health Product [NHP]) is considered to be a drug (or NHP)/medical device combination product and requires a DIN (or NPN). In this case, its drug delivery system is to be reviewed for safety and efficacy but a medical device license is not required;
a refillable electronic smoking product (e.g., e-cigarette) with nicotine or intended to be used with nicotine (or any other drug or NHP) is considered to be a drug (or NHP) delivery system and, therefore, a Class II medical device, and its nicotine (or drug or NHP) component requires a DIN (or NPN). (Please note that no medical device licence is to be issued until the associated drug component has received a DIN [or NPN].);
an electronic smoking product (e.g., e-cigarette) associated with a health claim but not associated with nor intended to be used with nicotine (nor any other drug nor NHP) is considered to be a Class I medical device.

General information
For information on drug submission filing in Canada, please see the links below:

Drugs and Health Products: Drug Products website
Drug Products - Health Canada

Regulatory Process in Canada.
Access to Therapeutic Products: The Regulatory Process in Canada [Health Canada, 2006]

Drug Identification Number (DIN)
Drug Identification Number (DIN)

For applicants
Health Canada classifies the nicotine component of an electronic cigarette product as a "New Drug" under the Food and Drug Regulations (Listing of Drugs Currently Regulated as New Drugs - Health Canada), and its delivery system component as a "Medical Device" under the Medical Devices Regulations.

New Drugs are regulated under Part C, Division 8 of the Food and Drug Regulations (Food and Drug Regulations), and require the filing of a New Drug Submission (NDS). .Information on this process and requirements are provided via the links below. .New Drug Submissions must be supported by data obtained from non-clinical and clinical trials, conducted in accordance with international standards, or scientific rationales, to support the quality, safety, and efficacy of the New Drug.

The data requirement may vary according to the inhaled product and associated health claims (e.g. smoking cessation, temporary abstinence). Pharmacokinetic data, addictive properties, long-term safety (local and systemic), bystander exposure and the possibility of overdosage are examples of important issues/ information that would need to be addressed in the NDS. .The fact that non-smoker could use this product and develop addiction is another issue that would need to be addressed in the submission.

As well, the nicotine delivery system component of the electronic smoking product is considered to be a Class II medical device. .In order to sell this device in Canada, the manufacturer must first obtain an ISO 13485:2003 CMDCAS certificate from one of Health Canada's recognized registrars. .Once this certification has been obtained, the manufacturer must submit a Class II medical device licence application to the Medical Devices Bureau.

Guidance Documents and Application Forms
Submission Fee Application Form
Drug Submission/Application Fee Form - Drug Products

Drug Application for: Human, Veterinary, or Disinfectant Drugs and Clinical Trial Applications/Attestation HC-SC 3011
Drug Submission Application for Human, Veterinary, Disinfectant Drugs and Clinical Trial Application/Attestation - Health Canada Form 3011

Clinical Trials
Clinical Trials - Guidance Documents - Drugs and Health Products - Health Canada

Drug Submission
Management of Drug Submissions Guidance
Guidance for Industry: Management of Drug Submissions

Submission Evaluation Fees Guide
Guidance Document: Fees for the Review of Drug Submissions and Applications [Health Canada, 2011]

Draft Quality (Chemistry and Manufacturing) Guidance: New Drug Submissions (NDSs) and Abbreviated New Drug Submissions (ANDSs)
Draft Quality (Chemistry and Manufacturing) Guidance: New Drug Submissions (NDSs) and Abbreviated New Drug Submissions (ANDSs)

Preparation of New Drug Submissions in the CTD Format
Draft Guidance for Industry: Preparation of New Drug Submissions in the CTD Format

Guidance for Industry: Product Monograph
Guidance for Industry: Product Monograph [Health Canada, 2003]

Establishment Licences and the Good Manufacturing Practices guideline (GMP) can be accessed on the Health Products and Food Branch Inspectorate website
Establishment Licences - Compliance and Enforcement - Drugs and Health Products - Health Canada
Good Manufacturing Practices - Compliance and Enforcement - Drugs and Health Products - Health Canada

Medical Devices
Cost Recovery for Medical Devices: Establishment Licence and Licence Fee
Fees - Medical Devices

Class II licence application form
New Class II Medical Device Licence Application Form - Health Canada

Contacts
If you have any complaint related to electronic cigarettes or with regards to the importation of these products, please contact the Health Products and Food Branch Inspectorate (HPFB-I) Operational Centre in your region by calling 1-800-267-9675 or by the following website: Health Canada - This page has moved

If you have any questions with regards to the regulatory requirements in filing, please contact the Bureau of Cardiology, Allergy and Neurological Sciences (BCANS):
E-mail: bcans_enquiries@hc-sc.gc.ca
Telephone: (613) 941-1499
Fax: (613) 941-1668

If you need additional assistance in filing a new drug submission, please contact: SIPDMAIL@hc-sc.gc.ca.

For further information on medical devices licensing, please contact the Medical Devices Bureau by telephone at 613-957-7285 or by email at mdb_enquiries@hc-sc.gc.ca.

Kind regards,

Agente de la conformité/Compliance Officer
Unité de Vérification de Conformité et Enquêtes sur les drogues /
Drug Compliance Verification and Investigation Unit
Santé Canada, Région du Québec / Health Canada, Quebec Region
1001, rue St-Laurent O. / St-Laurent Street W.
Longueuil (Québec) .J4K 1C7
Tél / Tel. : 450-928-4011
Téléc. / Fax : 450-928-4455

Originally the agent was pleasant and very cooperative and stated the liquid could be removed from the package (since I didn't order liquid) and the package sent to me (26 Oct). Contacted Customs and they said they would verify with HC and get back to me.

Long and short the package has to be RTS.

I contacted aforementioned HC agent, who appeared knowledgeable and confident the previous day, to someone who had just been chastised by Mother Superior. Where once she was confident, poised and cooperative, she was now hesitant and back peddling.

When we hit the first 3 links, although they are old advisories Mar 2009, the data contained is indeed reworded to include but not limited to POL-001 which never appeared in the directives in the past. Package country of origin USA.

Equipment longevity with VG liquids

2011-12-09T11:23:00.001-04:00

I was/am fortunate to have time on my hands, which enable me to extrapolate information from a variety of subjects. Having surfed the various subs and forums, especially the DIY sub, it seems to me the liquid used will indeed affect performance, in more ways than one.

Vaporologist asked that question some time ago wrt switching to entirely VG based liquids, if I noticed that atties/cartos clogged up sooner? Yes they do. Read more...

How to get the most from your equipment and liquids?

2011-12-09T11:19:00.001-04:00

Disclaimer: I do not have to post this perhaps controversial piece, but I will in order to be as helpful as I can.

We are addicts! That's right we are addicts! We may only be nicotine junkies, but nonetheless we are addicts or user who are addicted to nicotine.

For whatever reason we have come to the vape whether it be, to choose a healthier lifestyle or simply as another means to support our addiction at the end of the day, we are addicts. It doesn't matter if our drug of choice is nicotine or h e r o i n e, the results are the same. OTOH h e r o i n e is far easier to kick than cigarettes, many professionals in the medical community will support this statement (because that is where it comes from). Read more...

Medical Scientists to Smokers: Keep Smoking, Don't Quit Using Electronic Cigarettes

2011-12-09T10:10:00.001-04:00

In their print and radio column entitled "Medical Discovery News," two biomedical scientists have urged smokers not to use electronic cigarettes to quit smoking, even though thousands of ex-smokers have successfully quit using these devices and many have experienced remarkable improvement in their health. Read more...

The real costs of bailout money

2011-12-09T08:53:00.001-04:00

Greece will ban the selling of “electronic cigarettes” as the National Organication for Medicines (EOF) came to the conclusion that the E-cigarette is harmful to the human body due to substances like drops of nicotine, lugid ingredients and essential oils. The EOF proposed the prohibition of both the sale and the use of e-cigarettes in Greece and the Health Ministry announced that strict controls will start next week. And...

At the same time, the General Secretary for Public Health, Antonis Dimopoulos, said that the government is seriously considering to increase the prices of cigerettes at 20% in order to decrease the number of smokers in the country. “For health reasons” you would think! I dare doubting it. The measure is purely tax-collection oriented, I suspect. Papangiotis Behrakis, President of the National Committee for the Smoking Control, has already calculated the benefits for the state from the increased prices: 400 million euro. Read more

Another take on it.

E cig bans are absurd

2011-12-08T16:21:00.001-04:00

So, if public health advocates are going to ignore the personal choice question — what and if people smoke is nobody's business but their own, after all – they need good science to justify their assault on e-cigs. The research so far reveals the exact opposite; what we have is a product that helps smokers drop their deadly habit and live healthier lives. Everybody should keep that in mind as this debate progresses. Read more...

EU Vapers Likely in for a Fight

2011-12-07T14:16:00.001-04:00

The profits from [cessation drugs], most of which have a lower success rate than quitting cold turkey, are threatened by alternative to tobacco cigarettes such as e-cigarettes and snus.

Our friends over at the Ashtray Blog are reading in their tea leaves a future EU attempt at an e-cigarette ban. The theory is based on the fact that snus, despite being acknowledged as considerably safer than smoking is already banned in the EU. Many speculate the ban is because snus competes with cessation drugs. Read more...

Totally disgusting

2011-12-07T11:18:00.001-04:00

A further demonstration of how corrupt any governmental agency actually is. It is totally disgusting...

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recently announced that it was partnering with Pfizer to conduct a study on the economic impact of smoke-free bar and restaurant laws. Read on...

18650 battery test results 2011

2011-12-05T08:31:00.001-04:00

Unsure of origin - the information contained herein was posted by Dougiestyle at ECF.
As customary to prevent this valuable information from disappearing into the annals of ECF, it is posted here for quick availability and perpetuity.

Inthis test I have measured many different 18650 batteries andcollected the data in bar graphs and curves. The above picture showsmost of the cells I have tested.

Capacity:Measured capacity at 0.2 ampere discharge rate (This is the averagefrom the two tested cells). This is not measured the same way as themanufacture specified capacity, i.e. it is not supposed to be exactlythe same value.
Top: SB: Small button top, LB: Large button top,Flat: Flat top (Seehere for more information).

Protected: Does the battery have a protectioncircuit? IMR batteries do not.
Max. Dis.: Maximum alloweddischarge rate. This is only listed for batteries where it isspecified, for all other batteries assume 2C.
Source: Where I gotthe battery.
Date: The month I got the battery

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Thischart show the average capacity of the tested cells.

Thischart show the average energy of the tested cells

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Inthis chart I have taken the difference between 0.2 and 2 ampereenergy bar and calculated the change in percent of total energy((Energy@0.2A - Energy@2A) /Energy@0.2A). This high lights thedifference on handling loads.

Physicaldimensions
18650 batteries are not all the same size,they are supposed to be 18 mm in diameter and 65 mm long, but due tothe added protection circuit they are up to 5 mm longer. These chartsshow the size of the largest of my test batteries (The difference isusual not more than 0.1 mm to 0.2 mm for a cell type).

Combineddischarge curves

These curves can be very hard to read,due to the many cells in one chart. When in doubt about which cell aspecific curve is, use the charts under each cell to confirm the celltype.

0.2 amperedischarge:

0.5ampere discharge:

1ampere discharge

2ampere discharge:

5ampere discharge:
Not all batteries can sustain 5 amperedischarge and few batteries are rated for it. Because some curves aremissing the color of the curves are different from above.

Redilast 2200 (black)

Specifications:

2200mAh Capacity
Protected against: overcharge, over discharge, short circuit
Cell Made in Korea
4.20v±0.05 charge voltage
2.75v cut off voltage
3.6v Nominal voltage
Charging type: CC/CV
Max charge current: 1C (2.2A)
Recommended charge current .5C
Max discharge current: 4.4A

RediLast2600 (Black)

Specifications:

2600mAh Capacity
- Protected against: overcharge, over discharge, short circuit
- Cell Made in Japan
- 4.20v±0.05 charge voltage
- 2.75v cut off voltage
- 3.7v Nominal voltage
- Charging type: CC/CV
- Max charge current: 1C (2.6A)
- Recommended charge current .5C
- Max discharge current: 5.2A
RediLast2900 (Black)

Specifications:
- 2900mAh Capacity
- Protected against: overcharge, over discharge, short circuit
- Cell Made in Japan
- 4.20v±0.05 charge voltage
- 2.50v cut off voltage
- 3.6v Nominal voltage
- Charging type: CC/CV
- Max charge current: 1C (2.9A)
- Recommended charge current .3C
- Max discharge current: 5.8A
AWIMR1600 (Red)

Thiscell may have a low capacity, but it can supply very highcurrents.
Specifications:

Nominal Voltage : 3.7V
Capacity : 1600mAH
Lowest Discharge Voltage : 2.50V
Standard Charge : CC/CV ( max. charging rate 4.5A )
Cycle Life : > 500 cycles
Max. continuous discharge rate : 10C
Operating Discharge Temperature : -10 - 60 Degree Celsius

AW 2600 (Black)

Specifications:

Three triangulated raised dots ensure solid cell to cell connection when used in series.
PCB protection against overcharge/ over discharge / short circuit.
Safety vent with thermal cut off protection.
Nominal Voltage : 3.7V
Capacity : 2600mAH ( rated at 0.2C discharge 4.2V - 2.8V @ 25°C )
Operating Temp. : Charge 0 to 45°C / Discharge -20 to 60 °C
Max. Charge Rate : 2.6A ( ambient temp. 25 °C )
Max. Discharge Rate : 5.2A ( ambient temp. 25 °C )
Dimensions :18.52 X 68.16mm ( +/- 0.3mm )

AW2900 (Black)

Specifications:

Three triangulated raised dots ensure solid cell to cell connection when used in series.
Uses Panasonic NCR-18650 LiNiCoO2 NNP cells.
PCB protection against overcharge/ over discharge / short circuit.
- Safety vent with thermal cut off protection.
- Heat Resistance Layer (HRL) technology that forms an insulating metal oxide layer between the positive and negative electrodes. The layer prevents the battery from overheating even if a short circuit occurs.
- Nominal Voltage : 3.6V
- Capacity : 2900mAH ( rated at 0.2C discharge 4.2V - 2.5V @ 25°C )
- Operating Temp. : Charge 0 to 45°C / Discharge -20 to 60 °C
- Recommended Charge Rate : 825mA ( ambient temp. 25 °C )
- Max. Discharge Rate : 5.8A ( ambient temp. 25 °C )
- Dimensions :18.52 X 68.16mm ( +/- 0.3mm )
ASUCELL3000 (Yellow/black)

TrustFireTF2400 (Black/red)

FakeSonyLR3000 (Black)

Thiscell combines all the worst parameters for a cheap cell:
1) Fakemanufacture name
2) Large capacity variations
3) High internalresistance
It might be old cell or rejected cells that has got anew wrapper.

Soshine2800 (Black)

UltraFireBRC3600 (Black/white)

Cytac2400 (Blue/white)

Cytac2600 (Blue)

Ihave tested this cell in two batches and both has the same capacity,Cytac says this is because the cell are designed for high load andwill show some extra capacity at low loads.

Cytac2900 (Red)

Tenergy2600 (Cyan)

Specifications:

Capacity: Nominal 2600 mAh, Minimum 2450 mAh
Internal PCB protection prevents under-voltage at 2.5V and over-voltage at 4.25V. UNIQUE INTERNAL PCB!
Dimensions: Diameter 18+/-0.2 mm, Height 67+/- 0.2mm
Weight (Typical) Approx. 46 g yes
Nominal Voltage: Average 3.7V
Cut-off Voltage: 2.5V
Internal Impedance: less or equal to 180 milliohm (with PTC)
Cycle Performance: 90% of initial capacity at 400 cycles
Cycle life: > 500 cycles
Charge: Current = 0.5C mA Voltage = 4.2 V End Current = 0.01 mA
Discharge: Current = 0.5C mA End Voltage = 3.0V
Max. Charging current: 1.5C ma
Max. Discharging current 1.5C ma (for continuous discharge)

Solarforce2400 (White/blue)

Specifications:

Output voltage: 3.7V
Capacity: 2400mAh
Internal resistance: <120mohm
Cut-off voltage protection: 2.5V
Charging voltage protection: 4.3V
Charging temp: 0 ~ 45 deg. Celsius
Discharging temp: -20 ~ 60 deg. Celsius -
Storage temp (one year): -20 ~ 60 deg. Celsius

SpiderFireLC3000 (Gray)

PanasonicNCR2900 (Gray)

SamsungICR3000 (Purple)

Inthe first two charts the cell is only charged with a normal Li Ioncharger, in the last two charts the cell is charged to full capacityusing the Cotton Pickerscharger.

TrustFireTR2400 (Gray)

Sources
TH:Tactical HID
AW: AWon cpf
DX: DealExtreme
BJ:Battery Junction
HKE:HKEquipment

Notes: For allbattery types I have tested two different cells, they are called Aand B in the graphs. All cells have been charged on a hobbycharger with half the marked capacity as charge current and thecharge is stopped when the current is 1/10 of the charge current.I.e. if the battery is marked 3000mAh it is charged with 1500mA andthe charge is stopped when the current is down to 150mA.
Thischarge method will not reach the maximum capacity of the batteries,there might be space for a few mAh more. Batteries that are markedwith too high capacity will be penalized with this chargingmethod.

When I only use one curve for a battery, it is thecurve from battery A.

All the discharging is done on a CBA andI frequently verify that the reading from the CBA matches readingstaking with a voltmeter directly over the cell.

Both capacityand energy is done in one discharge, capacity is a summation of thecurrent, energy is a summation of current*voltage.

Cytacbatteries were supplied by Cytac for a review.

Tobacco Harm Reduction in the UK

2011-12-04T10:32:00.001-04:00

Many people wish to stop smoking due to the possible impact on their health or that of their close families. The problem is that it is a complex and powerfully-compelling habit, and not only that - many people find their lives are improved by smoking due to its beneficial effects on stress, cognitive ability and depression, a fact supported by many research projects. This means there are two strong reasons for people to continue to smoke: it is very hard to stop, and some people's lives are better while smoking.

Tobacco Harm Reduction is about finding acceptable solutions to this conundrum. It involves the substitution of a less-harmful replacement for the original product. Since the principal danger is in the smoke, not the nicotine, the object is usually to find a way to supply nicotine without smoke. Complete article...

Part II

Disclaimer: Original held at http://www.eccauk.org I am merely giving said article a wider distribution.

The writing was on the wall...

2011-12-02T18:31:00.001-04:00

Back in 2009 a large rift split the community. The topic of such controversy was whether or not to classify the electronic cigarettes as a tobacco product vice a drug (as seen by the health agencies), or to relabel it to an alternate form, such as: enjoying as stimulant (nicotine) not unlike enjoying a fine cup of Joe (caffeine) .
The rift caused some irreparable damage in the community amongst the principal parties, albeit both sides have achieved a certain amount of success. Neither party formulated the right approach into the classification of electronic cigarettes. On the other hand with the relatively new industry, both parties were merely pioneers with regard to the subject and debate at hand.

The reckless move in my opinion as shared by others to classify the industry with tobacco was a step backwards. Although at the time it seemed the lesser of two evils, that vaping should be seen as the use of a relatively harmless tobacco product (reduced harm product), considering the FDA had jurisdiction over the tobacco industry - a step in the wrong direction.

By doing so, and considering the case of Sotera vs FDA the unprecedented ruling of Judge Leon stated in part that the FDA had no jurisdiction to regulate over e cigarettes as they were clearly not drug delivery devices and could only regulate them if at all was as, a tobacco product. This ruling was considered a large victory for all and the community rejoiced. Not so.

Although Judge Leon's ruling seemed favourable to the average individual, it was nothing more than a trojan horse in my opinion. It did however release Sotera's shipments held captive by the FDA (being held as drug devices), but also ensured the FDA would have freedom to legislate and regulate at will - providing the industry was regulated as a tobacco product and not a drug delivery device. Some folks say tomato other tomahto, at the end of the day it is the same fruit.

Whilst the ruling seemed favourable, it also crippled the industry by now placing the entire industry under the ruling thumb of the FDA - folks rejoiced prematurely with the ruling not totally realizing the deeper consequences of said ruling. The ruling provided but a small burst of fresh air, it was merely a stay of execution, a retreat to regroup - where once again we fall under the clutches of BT and BP manifested once again through the governing body, the FDA.

I mentioned after the ruling that such rejoice was premature. I was ridiculed for my comment. Yet here we are today with (excerpt from Bill Godshall):

<<FDA regulation to apply Chapter IX of the FSPTCA to e-cigarettes could ban many/most e-cigarette products (that contain nicotine) is because Section 910 of the FSPTCA could allow the FDA to ban some/many/most/all e-cigarette products that were not available in the US market before February 15, 2007.

Under the provisions of Section 910, manufacturers/importers (of all tobacco products that weren't on the market prior to February 15, 2007) would need to submit an application to the FDA claiming that the product is "substantially equivalent" to another product that was already on the market prior to 2/15/2007, and the FDA would have sole discretion of determining whether the product is or isn't substantially equivalent to the other e-cigarette product.

Also, Section 911 would prohibit all e-cigarette manufacturers and importers from truthfully claiming that e-cigarettes are less hazardous than cigarettes, as such a claim would render the product as a "modified risk tobacco product". Section 911 requires any company desiring to make a MRTP claim to apply to the FDA to do so, and the FDA must approve the application.

Many other provisions in Chapter IX would basically require every e-cigarette manufacturer and importer to hire a team of lawyers just to comply with the currently pending provisions (as well as comply with regulations approved in the future).>> Read more...

Although William is no lawyer this explanation translated from the legalese surrounding this case, brakes down the case and subsequent ruling into layman's terms.

Subsequently the FDA loss their appeal on the injunction and loss the main case as well. They had the right and indicated they would appeal Judge Leon's ruling, however informed the courts days before their time limit was reached they would not be filing an appeal. Therefore, Judge Leon's ruling stands and the FDA is regulating e cigarettes as a tobacco product.

Provisions of the act (FSPTCA)

Creates a tobacco control center within the FDA and gives the FDA authority to regulate the content, marketing and sale of tobacco products.
Requires tobacco companies and importers to reveal all product ingredients and seek FDA approval for any new tobacco products. (e cigs are a "new tobacco" product)
Allows the FDA to change tobacco product content.
- The ban on flavoring applies to any product meeting the definition of a "cigarette" according to section 3(1) of the Federal Cigarette Labeling and Advertising Act. This includes any tobacco that comes rolled such as cigarettes and cigars, and added to this definition in the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act is any tobacco with the purpose to be rolled such as rolling tobacco.
Calls for new rules to prevent sales except through direct, face-to-face exchanges between a retailer and a consumer. (Internet sales)
Limits advertising that could attract young smokers.
Requires cigarette warning labels to cover 50 percent of the front and rear of each pack, with the word warning in capital letters.
Requires FDA approval for the use of expressions such as "light, "mild" or "low" that give the impression that a particular tobacco product poses less of a health risk.

FDA achievements on FSPTCA

Established the Center for Tobacco Products;
Established the tobacco user fee program, which provides funding for FDA tobacco regulation support activities;
Begun to enforce the Act’s prohibition on manufacturing, distributing or selling certain flavored cigarettes, such as spice-, fruit-, and candy-flavored cigarettes;
Implemented new statutory authorities, under which tobacco product manufactures have registered their establishments and listed their products with the FDA, provided detailed information about product ingredients and their own research into the health effects of their products;
Convened a Tobacco Products Scientific Advisory Committee, which began to study the impact of the use of menthol in cigarettes on the public health;
Established FDA rules that limit the sale, distribution, and marketing of cigarettes and smokeless tobacco to protect the health of children and adolescents become legally enforceable139;
Issued provisions that prohibit the advertising or labeling of tobacco productswith the descriptors “light,” “mild,” or “low” or similar descriptors without an FDA order; and
Required that new, larger health warning labels for smokeless tobacco products.[

The bold text was my interpretation of the act (FSPTCA) as signed. Did we rejoice prematurely? You bet! It will be interesting to see what will develop in the months to come. Although hind sight is 20/20, we provided the FDA with the means to build our own gallows for our hanging.

Serenity...

2011-12-02T10:21:00.001-04:00

As some might have noticed "VapeCentral" now "a new day a new way!" was created as a link from Bonsai Wonders.

Bonsai Wonders was created to share information and passion with fellow enthusiast, away from the daily grind at bullshit we see on the various fora. Bonsai Wonders was/is an organized venue where progress could be readily seen, charting infants from humble beginnings into something that can eventually be called bonsai (pronounce bone sey). Bonsai is an extremely fascinating hobby and not unlike e-cigs can be taken to extremes. As in all the various fora yahoos abound, where many have forgotten the purity and passion of the art and what it means/meant to Asian culture, unlike what the Western World has taken it to.

Of course the Western World is a generalization and extremely stereotypical. However, it is my opinion that it needs to be said. Many apprentices who have apprenticed under some of the great names in Asia and Japan, will never forget the roots of bonsai, nor their fundamentals. These former students always bring a refreshing idea to the table, not shadowed in the clutter of commercialized/westernized bonsai. When one becomes one with the tree and listens, the tree will communicate how it wants to grow up. The artist merely giving the tree its sole.

You will also noticed that the last entry at Bonsai Wonders was the 10th of January 2010, when I embarked on a mission to rid myself of a nicotine addiction. It was a relatively easy battle due in large part to electronic cigarettes, but it was a hard fought battle nonetheless. My focus was on winning at all cost, which I have succeeded. Unfortunately these costs came with a price, from who I am and where I want/need to be as a smoke free individual.

I never chose vaping as an alternate means, but as a tool to help me free myself from the clutches of tobacco and nicotine. During my journey I sought support wherever I found it, in the mean time supporting others overcome their addictions as well. In my opinion the focus should reside in overcoming our own personal addictions rather than convert the world and save lives. The latter is the biggest bunch of egotistical bullshit and hypocrisy I have ever seen.

Amidst the chaos in my daily life, where can I rediscover serenity to lighten the path ahead? I sat yesterday with Lazy for a couple of hours and rediscovered its beauty, created by my own hands in a time and place where I was content and at peace with myself.

The poor quality of the photograph (hastily taken yesterday) does not even begin to express the majesty of this tree and its future. Below Lazy circa May 2005.

It's journey can be viewed Here

Lazy circa 30 Nov 2012.

In closing, I have much work to do still within the vaping community who have assisted me amongst others in becoming free from the evil clutches of tobacco. I have no idea at this point in time which direction I will head in. That being said, there is a new generation of vapers out there to take over the watch. My participation on the forums will unfortunately be limited for the time being. Far too many things in my life have taken a back seat to vaping. Albeit I am retired, doesn't necessarily mean I have nothing better to do.

Time is an extremely valuable commodity and I intend to take full advantage of it - of immediate attention will be both my blogs, which have been neglected for far too long. Although I may be absent from the forum, my blogs will grow and folks can still seek valuable information. A new day... will be the main focus outside of manufacturing that will receive my attention in a serene environment, sharing with all pertinent info. What direction will this blog take in the future. Only God and the future knows for sure, but hey! stay tuned.

Switcher,

Sabbatical

2011-11-30T20:32:00.001-04:00

I feel I am in need of a break. I got caught up in the momentous of the vaping movement and I think it is time for reflection!

I am not here to save lives! Yet many think that is their duty - to save lives. I have altered quite a few smokers, but never at the cost of forcing my beliefs on them. When they were inquisitive I provided a solution , when they were doubtful I provided answers, but at the end of the day they were responsible adults quite capable of reaching an intelligent decision.

I found salvation in vaping but at the end of the day for me it was a method to rid myself of a 40 year + nicotine addiction, not an alternate lifestyle - I have succeeded .

I am smoke free but still under the clutches of nicotine. I went from 30mg down to 8mg. I am proud of my accomplishments and as well I should be. In retrospect my personal accomplishments have always left me flat. In the beginning as many I wanted to sound the proclamation, now I have reservations.

So I need time to reflect as a smoker and vaper <----- (that's right you will always be a smoker until you die) on what lies ahead.

It is quite simple - until I can formulate what my purpose is, I must recluse myself and reflect.

Switcher,

I'm having the big one...

2011-11-29T08:16:00.001-04:00

Medical Oncologist Claims that Smoking May Be Less Hazardous than Using Electronic Cigarettes

A medical oncologist at the Palm Beach Cancer Institute has publicly claimed that smoking may be less hazardous than using electronic cigarettes, according to an article on the ABC Action News web site. Read more...

The FDA trying to kill smokers

2011-11-18T07:04:00.001-04:00

By John Stossel

Published November 16, 2011

FoxNews.com

“The FDA is responsible for protecting the public health.”

That’s what the Food and Drug Administration tells us on its website.

My intuition makes me grateful that the FDA is there to protect me -- to make sure that every drug is proven both safe and effective -- but “protection” kills people.

Last week, I discussed how the FDA kills by keeping useful medical devices off the market. Now, we learn the FDA threatens the health of cigarette smokers who want to quit.

How can I say that? Hasn’t the FDA proposed that new warnings and gruesome pictures be placed on cigarette packages because the old scares apparently weren’t working? As Reuters reminds us:

“The Food and Drug Administration in June released nine new warnings. ... Warnings must cover the top half of the front and back of cigarette packs and 20 percent of printed advertisements, and must contain color graphics depicting the health consequences of smoking, including diseased lungs, dead bodies and rotting teeth.”

So the FDA certainly seems to be trying to save smokers’ lives. How can I say the FDA threatens smokers?

What other conclusion can we draw when we consider that the FDA now talks about banning electronic cigarettes, or e-cigarettes. It sent threatening letters to manufacturers of the product.

E-cigarettes look like cigarettes, but instead of burning tobacco, they vaporize liquid nicotine when users puff on, or “vape,” them. The resulting aerosol mist satisfies “smokers” without their inhaling tars and the most dangerous of tobacco’s chemicals into their lungs.

What could be wrong with that? Well, the FDA says e-cigarettes contain trace chemicals that “may” be “toxic.”

But most everything “may” be toxic. New York Times science columnist John Tierney writes: “The agency has never presented evidence that the trace amounts actually cause any harm, and it has neglected to mention that similar traces of these chemicals have been found in other FDA-approved products, including nicotine patches and gum. The agency’s methodology and warnings have been lambasted in scientific journals."

Brad Rodu, a professor of medicine at the University of Louisville, concluded in the Harm Reduction Journal that the FDA results “are highly unlikely to have any possible significance to users” because it detected chemicals at “about 1 million times lower concentrations than are conceivably related to human health.”

Moreover, Michael Siegel, a professor at the Boston University School of Public Health, told Tierney: “It boggles my mind why there is a bias against e-cigarettes among antismoking groups” such as the American Cancer Society and the American Heart Association.

It boggles my mind, too, because, as Tierney points out, e-cigarettes not only pose merely a hypothetical risk compared to real “cigarettes containing thousands of chemicals, including dozens of carcinogens and hundreds of toxins,” e-cigarettes also have been shown to be unusually successful in helping smokers quit. A new study from Italy found that after 24 weeks, half of all smokers using the e-cigarettes reduced their consumption of the real McCoy by 50 percent. A quarter gave up smoking altogether.

True, the cigarette substitutes are basically nicotine-delivery devices. But so what? Britain’s Royal College of Physicians found that “if nicotine could be provided in a form that is acceptable and effective as a cigarette substitute, millions of lives could be saved.”

The American Association of Public Health Physicians wrote that e-cigarettes might “save the lives of 4 million of the 8 million current adult American smokers.”

Four million lives!

The FDA seems to believe that it can create a risk-free environment here on earth. But that is pure balderdash. Life is always a choice between greater and lesser risks -- zero risk is not an option. Striving to abolish risk kills people.

“It’s time to be honest with the 50 million Americans, and hundreds of millions around the world, who use tobacco,” Rodu writes. “It’s time to abandon the myth that tobacco is devoid of benefits and to focus on how we can help smokers continue to derive those benefits with a safer delivery system.”

The FDA claims that all its regulations save lives. But its e-cigarette policy would kill smokers.

John Stossel is host of "Stossel" on the Fox Business Network. He's the author of "Give Me a Break" and of "Myth, Lies, and Downright Stupidity." To find out more about John Stossel, visit his site at http://www.johnstossel.com.

Totally appalling

2011-11-17T08:20:00.001-04:00

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Customer Service wrote:

Hello Everyone,
Due to recent independent titration analyses we have decided to reveal our own internal methods of testing and quality control as well as our own independent analysis of liquids that have been diluted before they have arrived at our distribution facility. As I have stated before, we dilute pure nicotine down to just over 10% strength before it arrives at our distribution facility. At that point we have an independent GC/MS done to give us an accurate reading of the product ingredients and strengths. The diluted product comes in at about 11 to 13% in strength. We then we do a final adjustment to bring the product to an actual 10% strength. The reason for this is "if the product were to come in weaker than the target 10%", we would have no way of increasing the strength due to the fact that we only work with 10% strength or lower in the distribution facility.
We admit that mistakes could be made in labeling which could result in a product labeled as 48 mg/ml strength and actually be 100 mg/ml. Even a mistake like this could be dangerous and if we have made this type of mistake then all we could do is offer our humblest apologies and / or.a replacement product. A product that is testing at at 272 mg/ml and labeled at 100 mg/ml is more than dangerous, it could be deadly. In all of our analyses ( internal or independent) over the last two years we have never received a diluted batch for testing that was over 14%. We test every diluted batch and we will now post the latest independent tests online every time a new batch is run.
For clarity we will label each independent test that will match a lot number on every bottle that goes out.
Furthermore on some occasions we may run out of nicotine during a big sale at which point we may use products from other US vendors. Due to this we will also be posting random independent tests on other US vendors as well.
Please look for our current independent GC/MS reports at http://www.boxelderchemicalsupply.com/110811pgtest.pdf
With that being said, we feel that this issue is starting to appear more like a smear campaign against our company and less like a valid scientific exploration of the products we all use and vape. We appreciate the support from all of our customers and assure you all that we are.extremely confident in our own internal safety procedures as well as the credibility of our independent testing labs and the quality of US vendors that we may utilize from time to time. So confident that I am willing to sign my name to this message and not hide behind an obscure username on a forum or the posting of a forum user.that has.never returned to respond to an original post.
Due to the fact that an unscrupulous company or individual could easily take our labeled product and increase or decrease the strength in an effort to disparage our hard earned name and reputation, we will be converting to a tamper resistant bottle for all of our nicotine products and we will only be responding to forum posted tests from credible laboratory testing facilities that will verify that they received what appears to be an un-opened un-tampered bottle of our product. We will not be responding to chemistry students who possibly are on the correct and intelligent path towards testing a given substance but who may also be unknowingly party to the destruction of one company for the benefit of another.
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We realize that there are many issues associated with this business and we want to do our part to provide a new level of transparency to this whole industry...
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Sincerely,
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Brad Bacher
Box Elder Chemical Supply
888-962-5877

Home test for nicotine concentrations

2011-11-17T07:22:00.001-04:00

The following post was taken from E-liquid Test.com in its entirety for prosperity. The download-able version can be found Here
Test kit can be ordered from Test Kit

Supplies Needed

10ml graduated cylinder with .1 ml graduations
.12N Sulfuric Acid (referred to as ‘acid’ in the document)
Bromothymol Blue (referred to as ‘blue’ in the document)
3ml pipette
Mixing rod
Distilled Water

The Procedure

Read this entire document from start to finish.
Rinse the cylinder/pipette/stirring rod with distilled water.
Repeat step 2.
Repeat step 2.
Vigorously shake out excess water from the cylinder and pipette.
Shake your eliquid well and put EXACTLY 1ml of eliquid in to the cylinder.
Add 2 drops of blue. (when testing 40+ mg nicotine, you can add 4+ drops of blue)
Fill cylinder to the 3mL mark with distilled water
Mix using the rod and lightly swirling the cylinder, making the entire mixture blue.
Add a drop or two of acid
Mix well using the rod (twirl rod between finger tips while moving up and down)
Repeat steps 10-11 until the entire solution turns pale yellow.
Measure the final volume and subtract 3. (this is the amount of acid you put in)
Multiply that number with 19.47
The resulting number is the mg/ml

Example

Cylinder is rinsed well.
1mL of eliquid labeled 24mg is added to the empty cylinder.
2 drops of blue are added
Distilled water is added until its at 3mL
The solution is mixed.
Since I know it should test around 24mg, I add .9 ml of acid initially and mix.
To be more precise now, A drop of acid is added, then its mixed, and this is repeated ...
The solution turns yellow after several 'drop and mixing'
The final volume is measured at just over 4.2mL
Subtract 3 to get 1.2
Multiply this by 19.47 to get ~23.3, which is the actual mg/ml

Notes/Tips/Tricks

It is important to rinse the supplies well with distilled water to clean out any remaining acid/juice/’outside’ factors/etc..
Always measure from the meniscus. (The bottom portion of the ‘bubble’ in the center of cylinder) not the sides. However you might find that some thicker liquids, or that contain some thick VG, a good meniscus does not form. Also plastic cylinders sometimes to do not a meniscus. If this is the case, measure from the top of the liquid.
It is important to shake/mix your eliquid well before testing, especially thicker VG mixes. I have personally tested VG mixes, without shaking, and got results almost twice as high or low as they should be. After shaking the eliquid and retesting, the results were where they should be. This tells me the nicotine can separate after sitting for a while, and the 1ml sample I extract to test with has a much higher or lower concentration than the rest of the juice.
Avoid dribbling liquids down the sides, as it will skew results, since some will add to the amount when you mix. Use the pipette to add the eliquid (if it is not already in a dropper bottle) and water because you can insert way down into the cylinder before putting it in to avoid getting on the sides.
If using the pipette to add the eliquid in step 6, make sure you rinse it out well with distilled water before adding the water in step 8 because you don’t want to introduce additional eliquid in to the mixture skewing your results.
When doing steps 10-11, make sure to mix the solution WELL using the rod. Some of the thicker eliquid will be at the bottom not mixing with the acid. You might see the top 2/3’s of the solution yellow, and the bottom 1/3 still blue. Everything needs to be mixed so ALL the eliquid comes in contact will ALL the acid.
Also when doing steps 10-11, its best to try and leave the mixing rod inside the cylinder at all times. If you remove the mixing rod, I notice about .05 or so of the solution sticks to the rod, and is removed. That means if you remove it several times throughout the test you could be removing as much as .1 -.2 ml of volume, throwing off your results as much as 2-4mg or so.
When adding the acid and mixing, the color will go from blue to bluish-green to green, to yellowish-green, to yellow with still a tint of green, and when you've reached the 'magic drop', it will turn all yellow. Holding the cylinder up to a white background, you will be able to tell the different between yellow, and yellow with a tint of green.
With about every 1 ml of acid added, that will be around 20mg of nicotine be tested. So if you are testing eliquid that should be 24mg, then it is pointless to repeat steps 10-11, 1 drop at a time in the beginning. I’ll bulk add like .8 ml of acid initially, then mix, then do it at 1 or 2 drops at a time after that.
Remember, this is a simple DYI test. Most of us didn’t ace chemistry in high school, but I think the average person should be able to read within .1ml of accuracy, making the margin of error less than 2mg of nicotine content, which is ‘close enough’ . Do the test a few times and average out the results if needed. As you do the test several times, you’ll get a feel for it, and become more accurate.

Care/Caution/Cleanup:

The .12N sulfuric acid and blue are designed for use by average home owners. They are quite safe to use. The acid is very diluted, so it won't eat holes in things. If you get it on your skin, it might itch. If you get under your fingernails it can sting. Just wash your hands with water. Actually, lemon juice is more irritating than the .12 Acid.
Bromthymol Blue will stain anything it gets on. There is no hazard with blue (its actually sold with children's chemistry sets), but will stain if spilled. (even on porous counter tops/wood/etc..)
The real danger of testing is posed by the e-liquid. If you're testing high nicotine content liquid, a ml would be enough to kill children, pets, animals, even you. If you're working with very high strength, I'd caution you to use latex, rubber, or vinyl gloves and do the test in a well ventilated area. (But if you make your own juices, then you already know this)
Disposal of solution after test you should be fine pouring it in the drain, so long as you flush the drain after with some water.
Rinse your testing equipment clean with plain old tap water, shake off excess water, and let air dry. The liquid does get sticky, and gets hard to clean, if left to dry on.

Disclaimer: The above information was copied verbatim to allow the widest possible distribution in light of the latest BE debacle. I reserve judgment on the latest issues that have surfaced in our community and I fell it would be irresponsible not publishing a mean to protect the consumer. This entry in no way shape or form constitute the innocence nor culpability of BE, but serves to assist the community for those who wish to test their liquids.

An alternative

2011-11-10T19:12:00.001-04:00

A Tool to Quit Smoking Has Some Unlikely Critics

2011-11-08T07:18:00.004-04:00

By JOHN TIERNEY
New York Times

If you want a truly frustrating job in public health, try getting people to stop smoking. Even when researchers combine counseling and encouragement with nicotine patches and gum, few smokers quit.

Recently, though, experimenters in Italy had more success by doing less. A team led by Riccardo Polosa of the University of Catania recruited 40 hard-core smokers — ones who had turned down a free spot in a smoking-cessation program — and simply gave them a gadget already available in stores for $50. This electronic cigarette, or e-cigarette, contains a small reservoir of liquid nicotine solution that is vaporized to form an aerosol mist.

The user “vapes,” or puffs on the vapor, to get a hit of the addictive nicotine (and the familiar sensation of bringing a cigarette to one’s mouth) without the noxious substances found in cigarette smoke.

After six months, more than half the subjects in Dr. Polosa’s experiment had cut their regular cigarette consumption by at least 50 percent. Nearly a quarter had stopped altogether. Though this was just a small pilot study, the results fit with other encouraging evidence and bolster hopes that these e-cigarettes could be the most effective tool yet for reducing the global death toll from smoking. Read more...

Try smokeless nicotine cigarettes, says government

2011-09-17T08:35:00.009-03:00

Original article on the guardian

Cabinet office 'nudge unit' encourages use of product banned in many countries, in bid to reduce smoking-related deaths

The vapour-creating electronic 'e-cigarette'. The government's nudge unit is encouraging smokers to use smokeless nicotone products. Photograph: Frederic J. Brown/AFP/Getty Images

The government's "nudge unit" wants to encourage the use of smokeless nicotine cigarettes, banned in many countries around the world, in an attempt to reduce the numbers killed in the UK by smoking diseases each year.

The Cabinet Office's behavioural insight team – better known as the nudge unit – wants to adopt the new technology because policy officials believe the rigid "quit or die" approach to smoking advice no longer works. Rather, they want nicotine addiction to be managed to help smokers who otherwise won't quit – an approach the unit believes could prevent millions of smoking deaths. Ten million people in the UK smoke, and smoking claims 80,000 lives a year.

The nudge unit's first annual report, published on Thursday, says the unit – the first of its kind around the world – has, in the face of criticism, implemented a series of measures they believe could save thousands of lives a year, as well as £100m over the course of the next parliament.

Ideas already being rolled out include "nudging" people to donate organs by asking someone to opt out rather than opt in when filling out an online driving licence application. The report also says the government is to change tax forms to tell people how many people in their area have paid their taxes ahead of them.

Now the unit wants to explore and encourage new products that deliver nicotine to people's lungs but without the harmful toxins and carcinogens in tobacco smoke that kill.

The annual report reads: "It will be important to get the regulatory framework for these products right, to encourage new products. A canon of behaviour change is that it is much easier to substitute a similar behaviour than to extinguish an entrenched habit (an example was the rapid switch from leaded to unleaded fuel). If alternative and safe nicotine products can be developed which are attractive enough to substitute people away from traditional cigarettes, they could have the potential to save 10,000s of lives a year."

Current alternatives to smoking range from smokeless tobacco to the Swedish snuff-like product Snus, which is illegal in the UK. Versions of smoke-free cigarettes are illegal in Australia, and banned in Canada, Brazil, Singapore and Thailand because side-effects haven't been tested.

But experts have advised the UK government that the nicotine contained in some new, smoke-free cigarettes is no more harmful than caffeine in coffee. A Cabinet Office source said: "A lot of countries are moving to ban this stuff; we think that's a mistake."

John Britton, professor of epidemiology at the University of Nottingham, told the Guardian that on top of the current smokeless range – which includes electronic or "e-cigarettes" that simulate smoking by producing an inhaled mist – there are three or four devices in different stages of development. But he said some companies have been reluctant to develop this technology because they had expected it to be as tightly controlled as pharmaceutical drugs.

Britton said: "If a manufacturer makes a health claim for anything then it becomes a drug, and drugs have to be regulated with tight controls. The current nicotine replacements are sold as drugs; however, e-cigarettes contain nicotine but get around this by making no health claim and so can be sold freely, but with little or no information on safety or standards. What we're asking for is a regulation change to bring all nicotine products into a light-touch regime that will guarantee reasonable purity and safety standards but make them as available as cigarettes in a shop."

The Medicine and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) is looking into approving these devices for use. If it finds in their favour, the government is likely to push for them to be placed prominently in shops alongside tobacco cigarettes, where they would be sold at a cheaper rate.

The unit is keen to engage with those critics who believe its analysis and intervention in people's behaviour is "nanny statism".

David Halpern, the unit's head, told the Guardian: "As with seatbelts and the smoking ban, these ideas were unpopular at first but after a while when you explain them to people, they understand and say, 'Yeah, alright then.'

"A year in," Halpern added, "we're much more confident about how well this can work, and the early trials have also made us much more confident about public acceptability. There's no doubt it can save many lives and hundreds of millions of pounds. In fact, our problem has become that we have so many inquiries from across Whitehall, we have to turn down many of the requests for help."

Disclaimer: As articles have a tendency to disappear from the Net after a period of time, I have copied the entire article for prosperity and have included the link to the original text - written by Allegra Stratton for theguardian.

308 How to

2011-06-04T13:49:00.023-03:00

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The diary of a 308

2011-03-26T11:38:00.020-03:00

The 308 calibre in all its glory.

Why this particular design? Well there are many tube mods out there and how does one market a mod with a promise of a different delivery? I believe the combination of positives from various commercial devices already on the market combined with a pleasing enclosure, was a step in the right direction.

At the time of conceptualization, no other mod provided the vaping characteristics of the eGo whilst providing the user with the option to change out the battery. In doing so, the device needed to be unique, not only in looks but performance. I believe that the Calibre Series will deliver.

How does one go about providing a solid performance out of a simple battery tube to unprecedented parallels? Well I believe the combination of a proper performing battery and atomizer to be key in the entire concept.

The Calibre Series is/will be designed around the AW cell. The AW cell was chosen for both its performance and consistency when compared to other cells. In order to build an all mechanical mod, the consistency of the utilized cell is of paramount importance. IMO, no other cell on the market has such adherence to tolerances provided by the QA/QC AW utilizes.

Everything starts out with a plan. Probably the hardest part of the entire process towards the first prototype - figuring out the build and dimensions from an idea.

The process...

Setting up a piece of stock...

Dialing in the requires settings...

Relaxing and taking a toot while the lathe does its job...

Another body complete...

All bodies completed.

Cones completed

Bodies and cones awaiting internal threading

Manufacturing the bottom connector.

Facing of the button

Threading for the primer (negative post)

Fitting and assembly of the bottom components.
This is where individual components form the
integral part of the unit until the end.

Manufacturing the top connector

Top connector fitted to its body.

Atomizer connectors.

Awaiting polishing final QA and testing.

This type of process is known as a production run - where all components are machined, then the components are assembled for the best possible fit. Once this is achieved, the components remain attached or stored as a unit until individual final machining - each unit is therefore unique.

On completion of final machining the units are polished and tested. They are thoroughly cleaned from any machining process or machining fluids in a biodegradable solution. The units proceed from the machine shop to the packing and inspection area. All units are tested and inspected one more time before packing, certificates are signed and shipped with each individual unit. Once packed units are shipped to the vendor(s).

Addendum: The sole purpose and business plan behind JR Custom Turnings was to offer a quality PV, different from others, but most important at an affordable price to the consumer. It is merely an extension of my skills during retirement. As the community assisted me in achieving "smoke free" status, these offerings are a token of my appreciation and the knowledge I gained since becoming a vaper. The entire series could have been farmed out to a CNC machine shop, doing so would:

defeat the purpose of going into production (occupying my time more constructively during retirement); and
increase the cost of each unit.

When purchasing a Switcher original you are merely helping a Vet enjoy his retirement after serving his country for 32 1/2 years. If it was about money, I would be doing something else.

Switcher,

Facts about smoking

2010-12-15T19:31:00.007-04:00

FDA loses in court

2010-12-09T15:24:00.005-04:00

A far cry from total victory but one step closer for electronic cigarettes and final freedom from the clutches of Big Tobacco!

A U.S. federal appeals court in a decision Tuesday found that as long as electronic cigarettes aren't marketed as a way to treat or cure a disease, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has no authority to block the importation of the battery-powered products.read more...

The U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington said today the FDA can only regulate e-cigarettes as a tobacco product. The ruling means the government can oversee the marketing of the products, not restrict their sale. read more...

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration can only regulate "e-cigarettes" as tobacco products and not as drugs, and thus cannot block their import, a U.S. appeals court ruled on Tuesday. read more...

NJOY, the country's most popular electronic cigarette brand, is pleased to announce that the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia issued a ruling in the company's favor, rejecting the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's argument that NJOY's electronic cigarettes are drug delivery devices. read more...

A U.S. Court of Appeals today issues a judgment prohibiting the FDA (and thus the police powers of the U.S. government it was employing) from keeping NJOY (and thus others) from importing e-cigarettes into the country as an unapproved medical device/drug. This is good news indeed for public health. read more...

Electronic cigarettes moved a step closer to being regulated just like mainstream tobacco products on Tuesday when a federal appellate court unanimously upheld an injunction against the Food and Drug Administration’s attempt to ban them or regulate them more strictly as drugs. more...

Implications of the Decision

While by no means the final disposition of this issue, the Appeals Court's decision is important, because it gives us a fair indication that the courts are likely to interpret the Tobacco Act and Brown & Williamson decision in exactly the way that I argued in my amicus brief: electronic cigarettes are clearly defined as tobacco products, and absent any therapeutic claims, must be regulated as tobacco products under the Tobacco Act rather than as drug/device combinations under the FDCA.

Ultimately, I believe this would be in the best interests of the public's health. Electronic cigarettes appear to be a much safer product than regular cigarettes and there is strong anecdotal evidence that they are helping many people to successfully quit smoking. Thus, they truly have life-saving potential. While regulation of the marketing claims, access to minors, and other aspects of electronic cigarettes are appropriate and will help assure consumers of their relative safety, allowing these products to remain on the market enables the public to take advantage of this unique innovation. Removing them from the market, as would essentially be required if they were regulated under FDCA, would cause irreparable harm to thousands of ex-smokers who would be forced to return to smoking if the electronic cigarettes they have used to successfully quit smoking were no longer available. the rest of the story

A 510 that is truly on steroids

2010-10-11T09:25:00.006-03:00

Those who like their eGos like them allot, especially when fitted with the cone. The eGo hit the market with such force that it caused many in the industry to clone them. However, in doing so the quality of some of these clones left a lot to be desired.

I was fortunate enough to acquire my eGo when they first hit the scene and in doing so, acquired a true JoyE product and I couldn't be more pleased with its durability and performance. The downside for some is that all JoyE products only output 3.2 volts. Battery Voltages - Surprise That being said, many of the clones are not fitted with the JoyE PCB (printed circuit board) and do indeed output 3.7 volts. This was unknown at the time the original thread was posted, as the clones had not surfaced yet. Nonetheless, the modulated pulsed voltage of the eGo was a performer. Many folks get too hung up on the actual voltage instead of the vape quality in my opinion. It is unfortunate because they are missing some good vapes.

I always wondered how an eGo at 3.7 volts would vape like? Having read many threads on the forums with problems that plagued some of these clones, I decided that the added voltage may not outweigh reported problems and decided against finding out, but I remained curious until...

An ECF member posted this thread in the "Battery Mod" sub-forum. In all honesty prior to this particular thread, I had given variable voltage PVs but a passing interest. Many devices were reported as problematic and were in my humble opinion not worth the investment. The aesthetics of some of these devices paled in comparison with the high costs associated with them. Regardless of the reasons, they failed to sustain any long term interest. Until Mamu posted her find.

In the past I have made my own devices with great success. They are for personal use, but I will openly admit that although my soldering skills are improving, leave allot to be desired. Therefore, my failing eyesight and soldering skills precluded performing such tasks in a confined area. This PCB with switching regulator was a solution to my handicaps, not to mention the low cost. The components alone exceeds the cost of the pre-made regulator. However, the size of this particular PCB is overwhelming, 1.5 x 1.5 x 0.5 inches. Finding a case for this monster wasn't easy. Although Mamu linked us to all the components for this mod, shipping costs to Canada where simply out to lunch. I did manage to acquire cases from Canada and proceeded to manufacture a variable voltage eGo.

My original intent was to build a 2 x 18650 device using this case.

The dimensions seemed adequate as listed on the site, in real life, this case was simply not suitable as it was too big. It did not fit comfortably in the hand and I dismissed the idea. Having acquired a case similar to the OP's case at the same time, I simply duplicated Mamu's mod, but fitted an native eGo connection so I could vape with a cone.

Having all the parts necessary I then went on the quest to find some eGo connectors. One of my original eGo batteries failed in August. not thinking at the time, I simply tossed it, or I could of had a connector for my project. Nonetheless, I posted my request for dead batteries in the canadian Classifieds and got a reply the following day. As an added bonus, the member only lived a hop skip and a jump away from me. They had 2 dead batteries and I traded some liquid as compensation.

Here are the results

As can be seen the space to work with is tight. I separated the battery compartment from the regulator. This permitted the use of 2 x AW RCR123As at 750mAh. I plan to use IMRs in the future.

For comparative purpose a triple AA box mod pictured here. The limiting factors with some of these mods is: although we like to keep them as compact as we can, the use of the proper amperage (3A) switch, not to mention battery size, pretty much dictate the finished product. I have seen far too many devices being manufactured by unscroupulous vendors using inadequate switches that fail within months, sometimes even weeks after purchase. Tactile switches can be used as a gate in "control circuits" but should never be subject to the full 2+ amperage the average device demands for vaping.

... and a comparison with a 30ml bottle of e-liquid.

Performance
What can be said, it is absolutely fantastic. The regulator has a range of 1.2 - 7.9 volts on a fresh set of batteries and sees me through most of the day.

It delivers just like an eGo with an added bonus that I not only have an HV device, but a variable voltage eGo. Now that is sweet and I am glad I made this device. The overall dimensions are 4 x 2 x1 inch, a little longer than a "Journeyman" but quite comfortable to vape, especially with the switch position.

Advantages
Many know that I am into the technical aspects of vaping. In other words, I like to know what is happening under the hood. This in my humble opinion removes allot of subjectivity to our experiences and replaces said subjectivity with supporting data, that may be duplicated at some point in the future.

Isaac at IkenVape has developed through his contacts an interesting line of atomisers, that have met my vaping needs to the fullest, when coupled with my various devices etc... Recently I and others have been heavily involved "beta testing" for some of Isaac's new developments. This allows Isaac an unbiased "real world" opinion with regards product performance and provides him with the necessary feedback for improvement, should the product require improvement.

Of late, we have been testing a particular cartomiser that was specifically designed to be vaped at 5-6 volts. What we have discovered is that although these cartos have an unprecedented performance at lower voltages, they have failed at voltages higher than 4.2 with certain liquids.

Not having a variable voltage device would not permit finding the turning point from satisfaction to tasting burnt. The variance between 3.7 and 5 volts is just too large to pinpoint.

Notwithstanding "beta testing" variable voltage devices does indeed provide the user to fine tune his device to the particular liquid used at the time. Where in the past I either lowered my voltage or simply used a higher resistance atomiser to achive the goal. Now I can simply dial in to 0.1 volts lower than the turning point and experience HV unlike nothing before.

Although I consider myself a heavy vaper, I am a mild vaper adn don't necessarily go for "reckless" but enjoy a much smoother relaxing vape. This was achieved with the eGo for me. A device that is my go to on a daily basis. This mod has added a greater dimension to the eGo experience, one that I am quite please with. A 510 that is truly on steroids.

AW RCR123A 3.0V 500 mAh LifePO4 - review

2010-09-08T14:23:00.017-03:00

Disclaimer
Although I was sent these requesting my thoughts on the product, as usual you will receive my total unbiased opinion on the product, or any other product I review.

Preface
When I purchased my Chameleon I had ordered Tenergy RCR123A 3.0V 900 mAh (protected LI-Ion batteries) to operate the Chameleon at 6 volts and AW RCR123A 3.7V 750 mAh for XHV vaping. The AW LifePO4s had not hit the street yet, or they might have been purchased as well. I say might because I do have a serious bias towards “protected” cells. The latter is just my personal preference and in no way shape or form should take away from the objectivity of this review.

I have trialled these batteries off and on for over a month know, and feel comfortable with offering my opinion wrt their performance.

The batteries were tested using SLB atomisers exclusively, with the exception of a short “carto” trial which I must admit I was not fond of. I prefer my cartos at 3.7V. The atomisers used were:

HV 801 @ 3.5 Ohms;
XHV 801 @ 5.2 Ohms;
HV 901 @ 3.3 Ohms (old stock);
XHV 901 @ 5.2 Ohms; and
HV 510 @ 3.5 Ohms

First Impression
Like all cells manufactured by AW, it is clearly evident that great care and quality control goes into each battery produced. They say never judge a book by its cover. Well, I believe that saying is very much passé. A good cover means a certain amount of pride was important went into the overall design. Unlike many batteries I have used, the sheathing of the AW batts is flawless, and components are in alignment. I have yet to have a battery fail (no autopsy), but I am sure that the great care on the outside, reassures me of the quality of the other components that form “the cell” and, that the same care was manifested there as well during assembly.

Trial data
I received the package and checked the voltage of the cells. They metered at 3.2 and 3.19V respectively. Expecting 3.6V I placed them on the charger. After about ten minutes, the lights were green and the cells measured 3.35 and 3.36V respectively. I numbered the batteries 1 & 2 (this will come into play later).

The first time I used them under moderate to heavy vaping I got 8-9hrs from the pack. On subsequent uses, 6-7 hrs (which in my case is to be expected), but the 7 hrs was a solid 7 hrs not 6 to 7. The remaider of the trial I would get a solid 6-7 hrs. I never enjoyed the luxury of a solid 8 hrs, but this has more to do with use than the batteries themselves I believe.

First use data:

battery 1 = 3.35V after use = 2.29V (position bottom)
battery 2 = 3.36V after use = 2.85V (position top)

Remainder of the trial...

battery 1 = 3.43V after use = 1.89V (position top)
battery 2 = 3.37V after use = 2.65V (position bottom)

battery 1 = 3.48V after use = 1.81V (position bottom)
battery 2 = 3.37V after use = 2.4V (position top)

battery 1 = 3.37V after use = 1.8V (position top)
battery 2 = 3.36V after use = 2.3V (position bottom)

battery 1 = 3.36V after use = 2.5V (position bottom)
battery 2 = 3.36V after use = 2.8V (position top)

battery 1 = 3.34V after use = 1.8V (battery top)
battery 2 = 3.34V after use = 2.6V (battery botom)

I used the batteries during my vacation in Montreal off and on and no data was recorded during that time frame (vacation). The above information is the collected data of the trial. A point to note – I am not an HV vaper per se and HV vaping is conducting only during the evenings or when chasing demons off.

Performance
The batteries performed more or less as expected. The more or less is because of battery #1 was discharging below the maximum recommended voltage of 2.0V, and as previously discussed (in other threads) was not commensurate with regards to its position in the tube.

On the other hand, regardless of which atomisers were used, I was getting 5.9 – 6.01/02V under load for 3 hours before performance started to drop. A caveat worthy of mention – I am not accustomed to vaping unprotected batteries and perhaps used them longer than i normally should have. I do not know.

Although, battery #1 went below its low voltage threshold, it never presented a problem when recharging. It behaved normally during the charge cycle, which led to the continued use of the cell for the duration of the trial. Both cells took approximately 2-2.5 hrs to recharge from depleted, of course #1 always taking just a bit longer (but within specified time frame). This led me to believe that the internal resistance of both cells were similar. Should the IR of cell #1 be significantly higher than cell #2 this would have materialised during the charge cycle where: cell #1 would have come to full charge sooner (less capacity to accept a “full” charge due to its rock content). The fact that #1 took longer was an indication that all was “normal”, as the cell was depleated further than its counterpart.

Comparative discussion
When compared to the Tenergys, the jury is still very much out wrt which one is better. Under load although the Tenergys only provided 5.5-5.7V, they seem to hit slightly harder. The latter may very well be subjective, but in all honesty I don't think so!

These particular cells are wierd cells. I am not sure of all that is going on wrt its PCB. Pulse modulation perhaps?

If we use a single 3.0V cell, in this case the AW's producing 3.2V, 2.9-3V under load, then why does it pale in comparison with the eGo and the Tenergy cell (2.9V under load). I don't have those answers and my data doesn't support my conclusions.

IMHO the Tenergys hit the same (battery design) until they cut off. Only the last couple of hits are faint, by the time you realize this, they simply cut off. There is no trailing per se when compared against the LifePO4s.

The Tenergys have not been receiving favourable reviews. This is understandable with their LifePO4s. Although many vendors do sell them, they are indeed underrated for use in our application with their maximum discharge rate of 0.5 Amps.

I believe their 3V LI-Ion cell more than adequately meets the job and further believe their discharge current to be 3A and not 3uA as on the site. I believe that the unit of measure was a remnant from the matrix used, but as always open to suggestions.

Protected vs non-protected
As voiced throughout Battery U although LiMn and LifePO4 use safer chemistry, protection is always recommended. Safer chemistry = will not vent with flames, not will not vent during a runaway. It is my understanding that a certain degree of internal protection does indeed exist for the AW LiMN and LifePO4 line. I do not have this information and will welcome anyone who has it to voice it in this thread so we can all benefit from it. I do know the ins and outs of the standard LI-Ion line however, and it doesn't get any better than that.

As stated at the beginning of the review, I am a proponent of protected batteries. I am also a proponent of buying the best batteries money can buy. It behoves me when I see folks skimping on batteries when they never blinked an eye at the continuous rise of cigarette prices, and paid them.

I had a near runaway on my P18 some weeks ago, the cause a faulty adapter. I believe the over-current protection might have prevented a dead runaway, but I was using the LifePO4s at the time. Because I recognized what was going on, I immediately unscrewed the top cap and removed the batteries from the tube and a potential situation was avoided.

The batteries were warm but not hot. After ensuring their state of health I used them in my Chameleon. The 5th set of numbers (under trial) are the result of that cycle.

Conclusion
In all honesty, I cannot form an intelligent conclusion at this time, for several reasons:

Although the batteries were received as a set, battery #1 might have been flawed from the start;
Regardless of position in the stack, battery one depleated quicker than battery #2;
Not having an extra set for comparison, leaves me litle room for objectivity.

That being said...

The quality of the AW battery is beyond reproach IMHO. The main point observed is that it continuously produced 6V under load until it started to fade. As mentioned, this was probably the time to take them out and re-charge them. I do not know, and welcome any comments wrt this. I always vape my batteries into the protection cut off, with the exception of the 18650 which I re-charge regardless on the third day.

What can be said if anything? Do not solely rely on protection or battery chemistry when using battery mods, especially when operating these mods in a stacked condition. Accidents happen quicker than we think. I thorough understanding of batteries, their capacities and intended use is key to safe operation. A serious incident was avoided, and that was the result of a good understanding what was taking place, nothing else. Was it the batteries fault? I do not believe so, the culprit was the adapter which found its way into the bin.

The anatomy of a Protected Battery

2010-09-04T08:10:00.015-03:00

The anatomy of a Protected Battery CandlePowerForums
Originally posted by HKJ from Copenhagen, Denmark

The Anatomy of a Protected Battery
Most batteries has some build in protection, usual it is only a pressure valve, but some batteries needs more than that for protection, this is especially true for some LiIon batteries (LiCoO2). Here I have dissected a AW 18650 battery to see the extra protection.

The battery is a 18650 battery, with this name it is supposed to be 18 mm in diameter and 65 mm long. These measurements do not fit reality completely, the battery is 18.4 mm in diameter and 67.4 mm long, the reason for the extra length and extra diameter will be obvious soon.

The holes in the plus pole of the battery is the exhaust from the pressure valve in the battery, this can be seen on many types of batteries. Also hidden beneath the plus is a temperature fuse (Called a PTC resistor), but it cannot be seen here.

Note: This protection is enough for some manufacturer to call a battery protected, but a phrase like "pcb protection" or "IC protection" does cover a battery with full protection.

Note the narrowing on the backend of the battery and it also looks like there is something on the side of the battery. Both are signs that this battery has a electronic circuit in the back and usual this circuit is the extended protection. For standalone Li-Ion batteries (LiCoO2) it is very important that this protection is present. In packs with multiple cells this circuit is usual common for the pack and not mounted in each cell.

Note: Cell is a battery with only one "battery" in it, battery is a collection of cells but also used about a single cell (Does this sentence make sense?).

In this picture I have removed the wrapper around the battery and the circuit at the bottom of the battery can be seen, together with the wire on the side of the battery.

The wire is connected to the plus pole on the battery and the other end goes to the circuit in the bottom of the battery. The went holes, from the pressure valve, can also easily be seen here, including two more.

The wire is soldered to the circuit at the bottom and another wire goes from the circuit to the bottom of the battery, i.e. the (internal) minus pole. The (external) minus pole of the battery is the backside of the circuit, not the minus pole on the cell.

In this picture I have collected all the parts from the battery, the actual 18650 cell in a metal shell, the protection circuit that is mounted at the minus pole of the cell and various isolation pieces and spacers, together with the black wrapper that is placed around everything. Measuring the cell, without wrapper, wire and circuit, it is exactly 18 mm in diameter and only 64.7 mm long, i.e. the 18650 specification fits.

One these pictures I show some different protection circuits, the last one is for a smaller battery (The scale is different, I have zoomed close on the last picture, all parts looks bigger). This circuit usual protect against over discharge, over charge, and to high current drain (Short circuit).

The protection circuit seen from the backside, i.e. the actual/external minus pole on the protected battery. As can be seen, one of the circuits has an extra metal plate on the back of the circuit, to make the minus pole more durable.

The circuit has two important elements, the blue circle is around the controller chip and the red circle is around the switch that is used to connect/disconnect the battery.

Measuring on the protection circuits I found:

Current consumption: 4.5 uA, i.e. it will discharge a 2000mAh battery in 50 years
Overdischarge will disconnect at 2.5 volt, but will only reconnect if the battery goes above 3 volt.
Overcharge will disconnect at 4.26 volt and will reconnect when battery is removed from charger.
Voltage drop in circuit at 1 amp and 2.9 volt battery voltage: 25mV

The other big circuit:

Current consumption: 4.2 uA
Overdischarge will disconnect at 2.5 volt, but will not reconnect again except with external voltage (i.e. a charger).
Overcharge will disconnect at 4.26 volt and will reconnect when battery is removed from charger.
Voltage drop in circuit at 1 amp and 2.9 volt battery voltage: 30mV

The small circuit:

Current consumption: 3.9 uA
Over discharge will disconnect at 2.5 volt, but will not reconnect again except with external voltage (i.e. a charger).
Overcharge will disconnect at 4.26 volt and will reconnect when battery is removed from charger.
Voltage drop in circuit at 1 amp and 2.9 volt battery voltage: 60mV

The above measurements are only valued for the circuits I have measured on, but gives an indication about what to expect from Li-Ion protection circuits.

Disclaimer: This is not my work. Because links become extinct at times, the original post was copied verbatim from the CandlePowerForums in its entirety. I make no claims to any of the author's work, and full credit is extended to said author.

The reason for posting his work here should be self evident. Although many in the vaping community visit the CandlePowerForums, many do not. As battery safety is everyone's concerns, I felt it prudent to have the information readily available here.

Battery - FAQ

2010-08-28T18:53:00.033-03:00

This FAQ sheet was designed with the help of Battery University, which is a major source for the content within. Where technical data requires preservation or otherwise lengthy explanations, hotlinks will be provided. Permission has been obtained from Battery University (Isidor Buchmann) to use their copyright material in creating this FAQ sheet.

Battery myths – are all batteries created equal?
Unfortunately no! Batteries are not created equal, regardless of what some folks may say or proclaim. To further exacerbate this dilemma, batteries from the same manufacturer often differ from one another due to poor or non-existent quality control. This has been observed in both length and girth, causing endless frustrations within the vaping community.

What do the numbers mean on a battery?
In general the numbers relate to the battery size in mm (millimetres). The first being its diameter, the second its length. The fifth is to indicate single cell. For example: an 18650 battery is 18mm in diameter with a length of 65 mm.

Another number found on batteries is the “mAh” rating (milliamp hour), which equates to the amount of stored energy in the cell. The higher the number the higher the potential energy available to be converted into work (vaping in our case) by the end user. This figure expressed in mAh is usually directly related to battery size, but not always. It is indeed possible to have 2 different size batteries with the same “mAh” ratings but the similarities end there.

What's the best battery?
In my humble opinion, folks should purchase the best battery they can afford. I am partial to the AW line for quality, durability and consistency. Not all batteries are created equal, and hence my battery of choice is the AW line. Why?

Because AW's quality control and assurance is second to none in the industry in my opinion. When it comes to battery safety, they have gone one step further than many only attempt to achieve.

Should I buy protected or non-protected batteries?
This again is a highly subjective topic, with an even more difficult answer. One should only buy protected batteries, whether or not they are intended for use in series or as singular cells. Why?

Some may argue that the protection is only as good as the life of the PCB (printed circuit board) and, like any other electronic component may fail pre-maturely. Although the latter is unquestionably true, the added measure of safety cannot, in my humble opinion, be so readily dismissed or refuted for that matter. The anatomy of a Protected Battery

What battery do I need for my device and/or which one should I use?
It has now become customary for vendors to list their recommendation with regard to which batteries to use with their particular device. This wasn't commonplace not too long ago, but is now becoming the norm. The latter becomes paramount with some of the newer “all mechanical” devices. Why?
Because some of the newer “mods” are being fabricated to close tolerances and many no longer use springs in their devices, to compensate for varying battery lengths. To further exacerbate this problem, batteries from the same manufacturer do indeed have differing lengths of the same battery. Why?

We don't know, but please do not solely rely on the manufacturer's quality control process, as you will be sorely disappointed. When in doubt, use the vendors approved and recommended battery/ries.

Battery chargers – which one should I use?
Once again, use the one recommended by the vendor or better yet, the battery manufacturer. When in doubt, follow the manufacturer's recommendation. There are several “multi-chargers” on the market that perform well and are indeed endorsed. I would suggest buying one of these if you are using different battery sizes in your devices. It makes absolutely no sense to use multiple chargers when one will do.

What should be the charging capacity of the charger?
Depending on which battery the charger is called to charge; it needs to be charged to the appropriate voltage. e.g. 4.2Volts for 3.7V nominal or 3.6V for 3V nominal. Although you can use a lower capacity charger with a higher capacity battery (voltage), doing the opposite could lead to catastrophic failure of not only the charger, but the battery as well. This failure has the potential to degenerate into very serious consequences, to include but not limited to: battery venting, explosion and fires. On the other hand, using a charger intended for 3V batteries will result in a 3.7V battery being undercharged.

Can I charge batteries with different chemistries on the same charger?
Providing the charger is designed to charge the specific voltage of the battery being charged, then the answer is yes, as the charger does not care about the chemistry. However, it is not recommended to charge batteries with dissimilar chemistries simultaneously e.g. on a multiple channel charger. This ensures an added measure of safety.

Battery chemistry – is there a difference?
Yes there is, and a significant behavioural difference in both safety and general use.

What is the difference if any between the different battery chemistries?
Lithium Ion (Li Ion) requires a protection circuit for safety, whilst Lithium Iron Phosphate (LifePo4) and Lithium Manganese (LiMn or IMR) use safe chemistry. Although these batteries utilize safer chemistry, protection circuits are generally recommended. The safer chemistry will prevent venting with flames in the event of a catastrophic failure, whilst LI Ion batteries contain and oxidizer, which produces its own oxygen to support combustion, should sufficient heat be available at the source. Lithium-ion safety concerns
Furthermore, the LiMn or IMR battery is capable of handling greater load demands than their cousins the Li Ion and LifePOs (in a much smaller package), and hence is commonly referred to as a “high drain” battery. Providing the battery has the appropriate C rating for the application, these are the recommended batteries intended for use with low resistance atomizers.

Notwithstanding, larger cell Li Ion batteries are indeed capable of meeting large load demands. In these instances, battery longevity between recharges becomes the deciding factor between the two. e.g. The AW 18650 2600mAh battery will outlast the IMR 18650 1600mAh battery:

IMR18650 1600mAh 10C :
(1.6*10) = 16A for 6min; whilst

AW 18650 2600mAh 2C
(2.6*2) = 5.2A for 30 min

When using a factor of 3 against the IMR, (16A/3) = 5.3A in can readily be seen that decreasing its load demand will not increase its longevity significantly (6min *3) or 18 minutes, when compared to a similar load handled by the standard 18650 for 30 minutes. This data backs up speculation that IMRs are effective in all cells, where it can be clearly seen here and, as experienced by the community that IMR chemistry is wasted in larger cells. When using the mathematical equations, greater battery longevity is achieved using a standard 18650 over the IMR battery. In addition, IMR cells are unprotected. Although IMR cells use safer chemistry, the use of protected batteries should always be the deciding factor in which battery to use when, the increase workload capacity is of inconsequential value.

What does stacking mean?
Stacking is a slang term used to describe connecting the negative end to the positive end while using two or more batteries. The correct term would be connecting batteries in “series” or, using the batteries in “series”. When connecting your batteries in “series”, you are doubling the voltage while maintaining the same capacity rating (amp hours).

What does parallel mean?
Unlike in “series”, in “parallel” means connecting the positive end of one or more batteries to each other while connecting their respective negative ends together as well. When connecting in “parallel” you are doubling the capacity (amp hours) of the battery pack while maintaining the voltage produced by a single cell. e.g. many hands make for light work.

Are there advantages in using batteries in parallel over using batteries in series?
Yes. The main advantage in using batteries in parallel is, the capability of the batteries to do the work a single cell would prove incapable of doing. Connecting in parallel ensures the workload is shared amongst the cells connected to each other and not overstressing any cell in the circuit. An example using a 14500 900mAh Trustfire battery (The *** fire series battery has a C rating of 1.5):

This single cell is capable of doing (900mAh/1000)*(C or 1.5) or 1.45A worth of work;
The demand on the battery is 1.6A from an average 2.2 Ohm atomiser. As the battery can only produce 1.45A, the battery will be stressed when current is drawn from the load.

On the other hand, should we connect 2 or more cells in parallel:

(1.45)*2 or 3 = 2.9 or 4.35A We now have sufficient power available to adequately meet the work load of 1.6A, without stressing any of the batteries in the circuit.

If I stack my batteries can I achieve similar results?
No. Because amperage draw is a relation between voltage/divided by resistance or I=V/R. As previously discussed, when we connect our batteries in series we effectively double our voltage while keeping the battery capacity (mAh or I) to do work the same. Once again our 14500 3.7V 900mAh battery:

This single cell is capable of doing 1.45A (900mAh/1000)*C worth of work;
should we double the voltage (3.7*2) = 7.4V;
applying the formula I=V/R or (7.4/2.2) = 3.36A The workload is nearly 2.5 times greater than the carrying capacity of the “stack”, resulting in a seriously overstressed and potential catastrophic condition, especially if unprotected batteries are used.

Is there a way to use this battery pack effectively? Yes, by increasing the resistance of the atomiser used in this application.

If I=V/R then R=V/I or (7.4/1.45) = 5.13Ohm.

What is “C” rating when referring to batteries?
“C” rating is simply a way of talking about charge and discharge rates for batteries:

1C = 1 time the rated mAh capacity of the battery. So a 900mAh battery at 1C can discharge 900 milliamps, or 0.9 amps for 1 hour. Most batteries, unless specified, have a C rating of 1;
1C for a 2600mAh battery would equal 2.6 amps for one hour; whilst
2C for a 2600mAh battery would equal 5.2 amps for 30 minutes from 1 hr.

As seen, while the C rating can effectively double the working capacity of a given battery, it also reduces the effective time the battery has of working at the increased load. The opposite holds also true when using “fractional C”:

while 1C for a 2600mAh battery can produce 2.6 amps for one hour;
0.5C for a 2600mAh battery equates to 1.3 amps for 2 hours, effectively doubling battery run time but decreasing the current being applied to a given workload.

Why do we need to keep our batteries in pairs?
Because metaphorically speaking, teams that are used to working together perform better. That being said, in battery usage we are trying to keep the internal resistance of the batteries the same, or as close as we can get them to each other.

What is internal resistance in a battery and where does it come from?
Lithium-ion batteries lose capacity through cell oxidation (cholesterol), a process that occurs naturally during normal battery use and aging. As the battery ages, internal resistance (cholesterol) increases as well. This increase in cholesterol (internal resistance) leads to plaque build up and when sufficient build up occurs. This results in a plugged artery/battery or, a battery that can no longer deliver current sufficiently to meet the workload. Not dissimilar to someone having a heart condition having difficulty going up a flight of stairs.

Does internal resistance decrease the amount of usable energy in a battery?
Yes it does. It reduces the battery's overall charge capacity. Three imaginary sections of a battery consisting of available energy, empty zone and rock content. With use and age, the rock content grows.

I have heard a term “stressing a battery”. What, if any, effect does stressing a battery have?
The short answer is rapid ageing due the increase build up of cholesterol (or internal resistance), in this particular case caused by excessive work demands. These excessive work demands increase the creation of internal resistance (cholesterol) exponentially, leading to an increased plaque build up (the rock zone).

Is stressing a battery dangerous?
Yes, emphatically so.

What could be the results of a stressed/over-stressed battery?
In milder cases, the build up of plaque results in a plugged artery and possible heart failure, or in our case the battery will no longer hold a charge or deliver current.

In severe cases clogged arteries can lead to aneurisms and death. In our application, should the protection circuit fail, and we have a stressed battery, which translates to an over-current condition, the battery may vent or even explode.

Keeping our batteries in pairs, why?
As seen in the previous discussion, internal resistance in batteries reduces the ability of current to flow. Should one battery contain greater internal resistance than the other in the pair, that battery when called upon to work, will exert itself at an X factor compared to its counterpart. This increase exertion (in trying to keep up with its counterpart) will lead to an increase in internal resistance. As time goes buy, the internal resistance grows exponentially until battery failure occurs.

Because electrical current flows in a closed system, the battery with the lesser internal resistance is trying to push a golf ball through a garden hose (so to speak). This in turn causes an increase in internal resistance of the “good” battery. As the internal resistance in the “good” battery increases, the battery containing the greater internal resistance is stressed even more, once again increasing its internal resistance due to work. Why? Think of it as trying to fight your way through a jungle using a machete when compared to a walk in the park. Which one is less demanding?

How do I ensure my batteries are kept in pairs?
They are normally received from the manufacture that way. Once received mark the pair with a letter and a number e.g. A1 and A2.

Is the number important and if so why?
Yes it is. A natural phenomenon takes place in a stack that many cannot explain. The battery closest to the load will discharge quicker than its counterpart. Many theories have materialized over this, but for all practicality, we know it occurs and will leave it at that (in this discussion). You should alternate your batteries in subsequent uses. e.g. If A1 was used on top, A1 should be used on the bottom next time the set is used, and back on top for the following use, and so on, and so on... This will insure a greater distribution of the workload and a more natural and even build up of internal resistance, extending overall battery life. Think of it as rotating the tires on your vehicle, wearing them out evenly.

How many batteries should I purchase?
This question carries many possible answers based on specific demands the batteries will be subjected to, dependant on the vaping lifestyle of the end user, battery capacity, and whether the battery is to be used as a single cell or in series application.

Generally speaking 3-4 batteries should suffice in meeting daily demands in single cell applications, with this caveat. The 10440 battery does not have the carrying capacity (320-350 mAh) of other batteries. In this instance I would recommend acquiring at least 6 even 8 cells.

On the other hand if the batteries are intended for use in series, then one would need a minimum of 2 to 3 sets or 4-6 batteries to adequately meet vaping demands.

Is there such a thing as battery maintenance?
Yes, but perhaps not what one may think in terms of maintenance perse, but proper battery care. Battery care consists of:

keeping the cells clean at all times;
store your batteries in protective cases, inn a clean dry area;
if a protective case is not available, batteries should be stored flat in such a way to avoid having their contacts come into contact with each other. Protective cases ensures the latter;
daily inspection of its protective covering to reduce the possibility of “shorts” occurring. The latter is paramount for batteries with an intended use in metal tubes, or all metal devices, where the container is used as the negative pole to carry current;
batteries should be numbered and used in rotation. This will ensure batteries wear evenly;
when first receiving the batteries, they should be placed on the charger, and charged. Many batteries will come from the manufacturer charged. However, this voltage is known as residual voltage and although it may indicate the available voltage, it does not indicate the state of charge of the battery perse, or how long the battery has seen a fresh charge. There is no need to break in a battery so to speak, this myth has been debunked. You do not need to charge a new battery for 8 hours or even overnight. A charge until the light on the charger turns green is more than sufficient;
always check the voltage of the batteries coming off the charger. This will indicate not only the state of charge of the battery, but also how the safety cut-offs of both the battery's PCB and charger are working. Should an over-charge condition exists, one should investigate the cause of the over-charging condition before continued use of either the battery or charger;
once the battery has quit performing or has met its low voltage threshold (caused by the safety feature of the battery's PCB) check the residual voltage of the cell prior to placing the battery on the charger. It is also important to make note of how long the charge cycle lasts until the light on the charger turns green.

This data is important for future reference as:

it will indicate the state of the battery's wear. One can expect a shorter charge cycle as the rock content of the battery builds with use and age, but also the state of the charger itself; and
if for unknown reasons, should the charge cycle take longer than what was the “norm” for that specific battery, the cause should be investigated. A faulty battery's or charger's protection circuit may be at fault or both. If anything, as batteries age through use, it should take less time in subsequent charges to bring the battery to full charge, as the storage capacity of the cell has been reduced by the increase rock (cannot store energy) content of the cell.

Keep notes of run time and charge times. As a battery wears, its run and charge cycles are greatly decreased, whilst it charge intervals greatly increase. These are clear indications that a battery’s usefulness as come to a head. Time to order new batteries.

How does one measure voltage?
By using a multi-meter. A digital multi-meter is recommended over the analog type, for accuracy alone. Multi-meters are not simple voltage checkers, they come with the capability to check resistance amongst other things. Every home should have one of these as its use far extends beyond vaping

Why do I need one?
An ECF member has a quote in his signature. “A vaper without a multi-meter, is like a Doctor without a stethoscope”. In my opinion no truer words were ever spoken. Proper usage of this tool not only adds an added measure of safety, but also can be used to detect problems on the horizon before they actually occur or could have otherwise gone undetected.

As previously mentioned above. Judicious daily use of a multi-meter in battery monitoring, will often lead in avoiding possible accidents. The multi-meter is a way of checking the health of not only batteries but that of atomizers as well. Not only can it check for their state of health, by measuring their resistance, it ensures the proper atomiser is utilized with the intended voltage to be used. As all atomizers look alike unless specifically marked by either the manufacturer or the user, the use of a low resistance atomizer at high voltage would lead to its demise rather rapidly.

Furthermore, some atomizers will see their performance decrease over time and that is a good indication that the atomizer's days are numbered. Often, the atomizer will quick working for no known reason. A quick check on the multi-meter will tell us immediately if the atomizer is in fact dead, or their is another underlying problem. Sometimes a given atomizer works well on one device but not on another. Once again a quick check will narrow down the culprit.

How does one ensure safety when charging batteries?

first and foremost only used a charger designed for that specific battery. When in doubt, always follow the battery's manufacturer's recommendation;
never charge batteries unattended or overnight;
monitor charging. If the battery/ies or charger become unnecessarily hot ((read hot not warm, warm = OK, hot = NOT) (and warm is defined as slightly warm)), unplug the charger immediately, and remove the battery/ies from the charger, and investigate the cause;
charge batteries away from any flammable material, especially non protected LI Ion batteries. Although more folks are turning onto protected batteries, many still purchase un-protected cells. I believe this practice will continue for as long as manufacturers continue to make unprotected cells.

It is not recommended to charge:

batteries with differing chemistries simultaneously on the same charger;
it is not recommended to charge batteries with dissimilar voltages on the same charger. As a matter of fact, when it comes to voltages, only use the appropriate charger to charge batteries;
it is not recommended to charge same size batteries but with different “mAh” ratings together on a multi-channel charger simultaneously; and
it is not recommended to charge batteries from different manufacturers on the same charger at the same time.

Always charge batteries used in sets, as a set, and always charge batteries used in single applications as a single;
always remove batteries when the charger's light turns green. Batteries do not require a trickle charge, this is a practice that not only is unnecessary, prolonged charging will only result in a diminished lifespan of the cell itself;
should one battery charge quicker than another remove the battery from the charger. Take note of this, as this is an indication that either the battery's internal resistance is greater than the other battery in the set, or that that particular battery was depleted further than its counterpart. Although, it is normal for batteries from the same set to charge quicker than one another, large discrepancies in charging times are to be treated with caution. As once again the batteries and or charger could be at fault. A quick cheek prior to charging should have indicated this, if not change channels during next re-charge and see if indeed it is the battery or the charger's channel that may be charging slightly slower. Should upon investigation it be proven that the battery is at fault, the use of that particular set should be relinquished to single cell use, and in the case of 3V cells (which are useless for single use applications) the set disposed of;
however should it be proven that the charger is or may be charging at different rates between channels, it is then advisable to think of replacing the charger;
never charge a battery that has been depleted passed its low voltage cut off. One may be able to charge a battery successfully. This shall only occur under close scrupulous supervision. Any indication of a problem, cease charging immediately and dispose of the set, or relinquish the remaining battery to single cell use. Never, ever introduce a previously used battery from one set into another and, never mix an old battery with new ones to form a set. Batteries form a set, are used as a set and are disposed of as a set, or one is relinquished to single cell use, if this is deemed cost effective e.g the battery is fairly new. In all other cases, dispose of, as a set.

What are the different battery specifications for the AW line?

IMR 26500 Specifications:
Capacity : 2300mAH
Lowest Discharge Voltage : 2.50V
Standard Charge : CC/CV ( max. charging rate 5A )
Cycle Life : > 500 cycles
Max. continuous discharge rate : 20A
Operating Discharge Temperature : -10 - 60 Degree Celsius
Size : 26.20mm ( diameter ) x 50.40mm ( height ) +/- .05mm

Special notes:

There is no specific charger for these batteries. We recommend the Ultrafire WF-139 charger used with magnets to make contact;
These are flat top cells - cell to cell contract requires slight pressure ( tail cap spring of a Mag will provide sufficient pressure ). DO NOT use a magnet in between cells to avoid ' shorts ';
Fitting in a Mag C is snug / airtight depending on the body version. Please check inside body tube diameter before purchase. You may need to sand the inside of the body tube of the Mag C to enable these cells to slide in/out freely.

Caution:

Do not over-discharge/overcharge;
Recharge empty batteries ( resting voltage ~3.6V ) as soon as possible. Leaving LiIon batteries in discharged state will incur irreversible damage ( capacity / cycle loss );
Do not short circuit ( will release tremendous current );
Do not dispose of in fire.

Attention: These IMR cells have much lower internal resistance than regular LiIon 3.7V cells and they may end up with a higher ending voltage when charged in certain chargers ( especially older version WF-139 charger ). Please check the voltage of them right out of the charger to see if they are above 4.20V when fully charged with your charger. Overcharging above 4.25V may shorten life/cycles. Above 4.50V may even pop them or making them leak. DO NOT use the charger if it seems to overcharge IMR cells.

IMR18650 Specifications :
Nominal Voltage : 3.7V
Capacity : 1600mAH
Lowest Discharge Voltage : 2.50V
Standard Charge : CC/CV ( max. charging rate 4.5A )
Cycle Life : > 500 cycles
Max. continuous discharge rate : 10C
Operating Discharge Temperature : -10 - 60 Degree Celsius

IMR18500 Specifications :
Nominal Voltage : 3.7V
Capacity : 1100mAH
Lowest Discharge Voltage : 2.50V
Standard Charge : CC/CV ( max. charging rate 3A )
Cycle Life : > 500 cycles
Max. continuous discharge rate : 8C
Operating Discharge Temperature : -10 - 60 Degree Celsius

IMR16340 Specifications :
Nominal Voltage : 3.7V
Capacity : 550mAH
Lowest Discharge Voltage : 2.50V
Standard Charge : CC/CV ( max. charging rate 1.5A )
Cycle Life : > 500 cycles
Max. continuous discharge rate : 4A
Operating Discharge Temperature : -10 - 60 Degree Celsius

IMR14500 Specifications :
Nominal Voltage : 3.7V
Capacity : 600mAH
Lowest Discharge Voltage : 2.50V
Standard Charge : CC/CV ( max. charging rate 1.5A )
Cycle Life : > 500 cycles
Max. continuous discharge rate : 4A
Operating Discharge Temperature : -10 - 60 Degree Celsius
Size : 14.07mm ( diameter ) x 48.80mm ( height ) +/- .1mm

AW 18650 - 2900 Specifications:
Nominal Voltage : 3.6V
Capacity : 2900mAH ( rated at 0.2C discharge 4.2V - 2.5V @ 25℃ )
Operating Temp. : Charge 0 to 45℃ / Discharge -20 to 60 ℃
Recommended Charge Rate : 825mA ( ambient temp. 25 ℃ )
Max. Discharge Rate : 5.8A ( ambient temp. 25 ℃ )
Dimensions :18.52 X 68.16mm ( +/- 0.3mm )

AW 18650 Specifications:
Constant Voltage : 3.7V
Capacity : 2600mAH ( rated at 0.2C discharge 4.2V - 2.8V @ 25℃ )
Operating Temp. : Charge 0 to 45℃ / Discharge -20 to 60 ℃
Max. Charge Rate : 2.6A ( ambient temp. 25 ℃ )
Max. Discharge Rate : 5.2A ( ambient temp. 25 ℃ )
Dimensions :18.52 X 68.16mm ( +/- 0.3mm )

LifePo4 RCR123 Specifications :
Nominal Voltage : 3.2V
Capacity : 500mAH
Lowest Discharge Voltage : 2.0V
Standard Charge : CC 250mA CV 3.6V
Cycle Life : > 500 cycles

AW RCR123A Specifications:
Nominal Voltage : 3.7V
Capacity : 750mAH
Lowest Discharge Voltage : 2.50V
Standard Charge : CC/CV ( max. charging rate 4.5A )
Cycle Life : > 500 cycles
Max. continuous discharge rate : 2C
Overcharge protection at 4.35V
Over discharge protection at 2.45V
Short / over-current protection
Operating Discharge Temperature : -10 - 60 Degree Celsius
Size : 16.62mm ( diameter ) x 34.29mm ( height ) +/- .1mm

Bibliography: Battery University
Battery University is an on-line resource that provides practical battery knowledge for engineers, educators, students and battery users alike. The papers address battery chemistries, best battery choices and ways to make your battery last longer.

Permission was obtained from Battery University (Isidor Buchmann) to use their copyright material in creating this FAQ sheet.

We are all concerned about safety and I herewith give you permission to use the material of Battery U for this purpose. More information will be released as part of the 3rd edition of "Batteries in a Portable World," material that will make its way to Battery U.

Good luck,

Isidor Buchmann
Cadex Electronics Inc.

Links of interest at Battery U.
Is lithium-ion the ideal battery?
The high-power lithium-ion
Lithium-ion safety concerns
Serial and parallel battery configurations
Charging lithium-ion batteries
How to charge - when to charge table
Discharge Methods - C rate
Internal battery resistance
The battery fuel gauge
Storing and priming of batteries
Do and don't battery table
The Secrets of battery runtime
Non-Correctable Battery Problems
How to prolong lithium-based batteries
Battery performance as a function of cycling

The moon and vaping

2010-08-20T09:10:00.002-03:00

(originally written April 20th 2010)

Well I had quite the episode.

As stated in another thread, I just came off a favourite Rolling Stones tune. It was a rough ride. Mum used to say as many other folks as well. What's the matter did you get up on the wrong side of the bed? Well the answer is yes.

Have you ever gotten out of bed and feel like you want to just strangle someone or break something? I'm not talking about after having an altercation with someone or whatever, I am talking right out of bed? BTW I am not the only one out there, there are many like me. I have no scientific evidence of this but, I have anecdotal evidence.

We know that the moon affects the tides and animal behaviour. It plays a larger role than some folks think. Just ask any cop wrt the full moon. I am sure everyone has heard of that one. Anyway, I am not into horoscopes or whatever but do lend credence to astrology. Hey them hippies of the 60s had it right "What's you sign?"

Water signs are affected by the moon patterns. I am a Cancer and I definitely now this. I stumbled across this by pure accident. I was always a moody person, but never really understood why. This as previously mentioned was straight out of bed. I was once again single from a former relationship in 2003. During this time frame I started to jot down when these episodes would happen, trying to better understand my mood swings. (BTW mood swings had nothing to do with being single again. I'm the one who ended that relationship.) But being single allowed me to reflect without any outside interference so to speak. In other words I did not have a spouse or children to get on my nerves.

So this went on a for a period of 6-8 months. I wasn't paying attention to anything (moon calendar). I was merely collecting data. Well low and behold sure enough my episodes would follow the new and full moon pattern. The new moon giving me my greatest anxieties or whatever (the new moon was discovered only much later). So after having found this little marvel, I started to check the calendar and yup, there it was. This is also when the effects of the new moon which are much st roger on me were discovered. The really bad moon as I call it, is the first new moon of the quarter, and guess what last Wednesday was.

I pretty much ignore the calendar so I don't affect my rationale. But will check it out after a bout, and 98% of the time, I just went through a moon phase. BTW I only checked the calendar yesterday wrt my latest bout.

As I said elsewhere, as of Saturday, nothing I vaped to include but not limited to tobacco flavours, an increase in mg (although that gave me a good headache) to my beloved RY5, would sooth me. But I fought the demons and Switched won. This is my first battle as a smoke free individual with the new moon of the quarter. My next gladiator match with the sucker will be sometime in July. This time I will be better prepared for him.

I thought I would share this with folks who perhaps know what I am talking about. I know it not only affects Cancerians but all water signs. This became apparent through discussion with other water signs over the years.

Here's one for you. My wife is an Aries. Our two signs are diametrically opposed, and shouldn't get along. Why do we? Well there is an explanation for that as well, but that's for another day. During our courtship she probably thought I was the biggest Bull Shitter out there, when I discovered her X was a Cancerian too. Her X and I, are total opposites from each other, "and yeah coming to think of it (wifey) he had those mood swings too". All this transpired through some deep discussion at the beginning of our relationship as she asked how I could know so much about her, without knowing her. Her likes dislikes, favourite colour, etc... I told her she was my lab experiment (no she was not upset over the statement, on the contrary she was quite amused). I did my research and all this stuff was indeed found in astrology, to include but not limited to why an Aries and Cancer can get along. BTW the combination is a rarity, but when they do gel, an unbreakable bond. Read up on it!

In closing I am reminded of another tune, this one by CCR "Bad Moon Arising". I would like to hear from "water members" if they have had similar experiences, and if so, now you have your answer.

Update!
My wife provided me with the following link http://blog.moodalert.com/about/ and to be honest I have to admit there is merit in the writings. She also confirms that the findings are pretty accurate. I have not been privy to the information contained in said link for long (3 days). However going through the info provided, I must reluctantly admit several traits were evident.

Vaping and Satisfaction

2010-08-20T09:06:00.007-03:00

(Originally written April 20th 2010)

Well I thought naively that I might be able to vape myself towards being nicotine free. Having said that I am also a realist, and I might as well face the fact that I may go through the rest of my life with a metal tube in my mouth (PV). Notwithstanding, my goal is indeed to rid myself of my addiction.

In the beginning I did not chose vaping as an alternate "safer" lifestyle. No, I took up vaping as a means to an end, as a smoking cessation device. As many, I have tried many times in the past without success. My wife has resigned herself to the fact that I will never quit smoking, but is happy that I am vaping. She has noticed the health benefits etc... In order not to set myself up for failure, I never chose a target date or D day for being nicotine free, I believed in baby steps. Over the course of time I planned on reducing my nicotine intake to none, eventually quit vaping while maintaining a device handy should I fall off the wagon.

Well I have tried to reduce from 20-24mg down to 18mg on several occasions without success. I am not taking these failures as failures, just premature attempts. I will try again at later date. Over the WE I had mixed up several 18mg juices for my evening vapes. Nope, not doing it for me, mind you I had just finished a rather tiresome bout with my demons. Maybe next time.

My wife has noticed although I think I am vaping more, she says I am vaping less than I smoked. Well who would know better than your significant other eh? Which brings me to the following discussion.

Understanding our addiction is the road to recovery. Is it? I am retired which affords me a lot of time for research/reading into/on the subject. Many have stated that they know they will be vaping for years to come, that they can't help themselves etc... Well in the beginning I thought it was because of the age group etc... Does it go deeper than that? Oh yes it does, much, much deeper and all the way to BT and their accomplices.

Nicotine addiction in itself, ask any doctor and they will categorically state that "nicotine is flushed out of your system in 10-14 days, 10 being the norm", now you are left with the psychological effects of your addiction, or like I like to call 'em, our demons. What causes those demons?

Well we do know the affects of MAO inhibitors and ammonia found in analogs, what were the remaining 3998+ chemicals doing. I have said it for years that it was easier to quit back then than it is now. Open minded people who have tried in the past, but eventually were successful will readily admit it. The close minded really vocal former smokers, will state otherwise.

Through reading and discussion, why hasn't BT really jumped on the band wagon wrt vaping? Is it because they would rather remain anonymous, and just maintain a low profile while lobbying against vaping with the FDA, HC, WHO and our respective governments. Or is there more hiding under the surface?

We know that MAO inhibitors (an implanted time bomb) has lasting effects of anywhere from 8-10 weeks. What else was included in the chemical cocktail we smoked, that we do not know about, or their effects on the system, besides causing cancer.

They included ammonia to increase the absorption rate of nicotine into the bloodstream. They added Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors so we self medicated with nicotine etc... what are the lasting effects of the other 3998+ chemicals?

Many have stated the only way they can remain free from analogs is to vape. That the day they quit vaping they will return to smoking. They know this. In the beginning I thought that they were folks who just plain didn't want to quit. It goes deeper than that in some. They just can't plain quit. There is something in their bodies that refuses to let go, even after a couple of years etc... Psychological triggers or chemical time bombs embedded deep into our neuro system? A good question indeed.

So folks have been upping there mg over the rough spots, and decreasing their nicotine intake during low periods etc... Just like a yoyo. I believe that BT is having a blast watching this circus show, because they know we are only steps away from increasing their coffers again. In the meantime playing the good guy part, they are coming out with alternate smokeless tobacco products showing the world that they are part of HARM reduction, are they? What is in their product now?

I plan to wean myself off nicotine, but I also have resigned myself to the fact that I may always have a PV stuck to my face, and not because I enjoy it.

The Precise - First Impressions

2010-08-02T01:17:00.003-03:00

The Precise 18650 (P18)

Pictured with a LR 801 "shorty" atomiser and adapter.

Preface
This unit was pre-ordered from the day it's release was announced. It is an all "mechanical" Stainless Steel device, capable of both 3.7 and High Voltage (7.2V and 8.4V). The announcement was most welcome by this Canuck. The announcement came shortly after Judge Leon's ruling was stayed on 31 Mar 2010, and once again FDAs ban was in full effect as prior to the ruling.

I have no intention of ever returning to smoking and seeing the writing on the wall from the beginning have armed myself with sustainability over "bling". Whether folks agree with my rationale or not is rather a moot point. No one in Canada makes mods with the exception of Nuck's Fistpack, which is a great variable voltage "electronic" device. When David announced the manufacturing of an all mechanical Stainless Steel device, I was all over it like a dirty shirt. I don't believe in funding prototyping as such, but based on the 10440 reviews and David's skills as a machinist I jumped on the band wagon and the wait began.

The review
The 18650 Precise affectionately know as the P18 cost's $159 + shipping. (we will discuss later);

* the unit was well packaged in a velvet pouch;
* the unit was then wrapped in bubble wrap;
* the unit came in a flat rate shipping container;
* the box contained a spare o-ring and spare switch spacers; and
* the box contained a set of instructions.

First Impressions
Wow, is this thing small. Although it is acclaimed as the smallest 18650 battery mod available, I had no idea it would be this tiny. It is roughly the same size as my Chameleon. The difference, it has an 18650 under the hood.

Side by side comparison. The Chameleon is sporting a full fledge 801 atomiser, whilst the P18 sports a "shorty" 801.

Side by side comarison. Yes the Precise can stands on end without firing the atomiser.

The Precise wears its name extremely well. The machining is precise and flawless. The finish is ultra smooth and repels fingerprints like the plague. Upon receipt the connections were barely visible. We can barely see the top cap connection in the picture which is not felt with a fingernail and not present at 3.7V using an 18650 but exist at 6V. Considering the plethora of batteries the unit can use.

Performance
It vapes like a 3.7 and 6V device. Folks that have followed what can be deemed as controversial posts, should know me better by now. All things being equal:

* same battery;
* same atomiser; and
* same liquid.

A 3.7 volt device vapes like a 3.7 volt device, and a 6 volt device, vapes like a 6 volt device - when all things are equal. So I am not here to snow no one. It vapes like a 3.7V and a 6-7V device. So why did I buy it you might ask? Ahhh...... Let me explain.

Being a former machinist I am impressed with the quality of the unit. Having done my research prior to pulling the trigger, I wasn't really surprised with the results. The Precise bares its name well and the name for the entire line well chosen. The precision manufacturing, is second to none. Yes I said second to none. The clearances are absolutely astounding in their finesse. There is absolutely no wiggle of any of the components. I will not go into direct specifications of the unit, all I can say is that SuperT has made an astounding product, that many can only revel in.

The threads are positively engaging and ultra smooth, the latter is without any lubrication. The unit comes with a native 510 connection, and ships with either an 801 or 901/510 adapter of your choice. The atomiser connection is recessed into the top cap. I was a little apprehensive wrt the recess lacking the normal slits that we are accustomed to on most mods and adapters. The draw on a regular atty is similar to the draw from an eGo fitted with cone. Many know I am a fan of the eGo so all I can say is it performs just like the eGo, but at 3.7V.

I have tried all adapters in my possession and all worked flawlessly. I have installed all my 510 atomisers on the unit, and all engaged positively without restrictions. The same goes with both the SLB and Boge 510 cartomisers.

Conclusion
What does this device do that another device don't? Absolutely nothing! Ah, but it doesn't stop there. The unit is owner serviceable. The switch requires approx 100gr to engage (speculation) as it is as easy as my MKI Screwdriver which is known to have a 100gr button - they are near identical. The throw on the button is adjustable by adding or removing spacers. It comes from the factory without, and I have found nothing wrong with this set up. The machining is second to none. It weights in at a mere 37gr more than my Chameleon. It repels fingerprint, being Stainless Steel the finish is extremely durable and will wear well.

There was a lot of rumours that circulated wrt the conductivity of Stainless over Aluminium, rest assured, don't believe everything folks say and interpret what is written for what it is worth. I conducted extensive testing on the unit. I will be the second one to admit (Dave was first) that they are insignificant. I challenge anyone to be able to detect the difference while vaping. They are indeed negligible and insignificant. I will not release my findings, with the exception that the claims are indeed accurate, but insignificant, more along the line of someone who has an axe to grind more than anything else.

I will post a follow up in a month or so, after I have put the P18 through its paces. The wait for this unit was long, 3 months but well worth it. I have yet to receive anything from the US this expeditiously and shipping was so cheap. 3.5 days to my door from the shop, and that was with a stop at customs.

My unit looks like every other unit manufactured by SuperT. If you are looking for a more personalized unit, then SuperT is not the place to be shopping However, if you are indeed looking for a unit that will withstand the test of time, and you are slightly mechanically inclined, then I highly recommend the Precise line. The unit has only 7 parts, and all can be fixed or acquired locally. The latter is also insignificant as SuperT products come with a lifetime warranty.

The Chameleon - first impressions

2010-06-29T23:28:00.002-03:00

Preface
After what seemed like an eternity, I finally got my Chameleon from Ikenvape. After seeing a review of this device and its versatility, I knew I had finally found “the PV” of choice. The long wait for its acquisition stems from the item being out of stock.

I had sent Ikenvape a query and was advised to sign up as a subscriber. The latter would ensure I would be informed prior to the public wrt when they were back in stock. The delivery took a mere week from ordering. Pretty good considering it was an International Order. I would highly recommend that anyone looking in acquiring one of these, subscribe to their newsletter should you visit the site and find the Chameleon out of stock.

This device is amazingly small and lightweight. A mere 2 7/8” long with a diameter of just over 3/4” for 3.7V, and a mere 4 1/8” for high voltage applications. The device can be used stock with the 510, 801 and 901 atomisers, and accepts a standard 16340 or CR123 for 3.7V, a 14670 with extension sleeve for extended use at 3.7V or 2 x CR123A (protected) for high voltage applications.

The review
As usual it came in a nice box (recyclable for future use for our doodads. The box contained:

A long and a short sleeve with end cap (extension sleeve is an extra)
The switch unit
A top cap
3 atomiser adapters (510, 801 and 901/808)
3 SLB HXV 5.2 Ohm atomisers (extra)

The unit was well packaged at a cost $119 USD (with extension sleeve) shipped to Canada, considering the quality and versatility of the unit, this device is a good investment in my humble opinion. What turned me on the most with this unit outside of its versatility wrt battery configurations and multiple adapters? Was the completely “solderless” device with no electronics involved. In other words a dependable self-sustaining device, which can be serviced by the user.

First Impressions
The unit is slick and well built. The thread assemblies are nice and smooth and engage without difficulty, the parts are nearly seamless. I say nearly because it seems that the sleeves are either manufactured by a different shop or form part of a different batch, because their is some very slight differences in colour with the anodizing process. Nonetheless, if these parts were indeed manufactured in 2 different machine shops, the quality of this production process is nearly flawless.

Having previously acquired the necessary batteries, the unit was ready to go upon receipt. I inserted the 510 adapter in the end cap, installed the switch and inserted an RCR123a in the short sleeve. I went to installed a 510 atomiser to the adapter, oh, oh, it doesn't fit (read on). So not wanting to force the issue I chose a different adapter – an 801, same thing, although the 801 seemed a little “looser”. I went back to the 510 and used a different atty. This one was better, a little on the tight side but better. I could thread the atty without difficulty. Wow! So I re-installed the 801 adapter and tried that atty again. Sure enough some resistance was felt but the atty did screw on. Ah ha! The adapter threads were machined for a class 1 fit (former machinist). So I delayed the trial vaping run and inserted the 901 adapter, sure enough a little resistance at first but nice and smooth once engaged. Now that is some fine machining and something that will provide excellent wear-ability in the future. I went back to my 510 and proceeded to vape. The vapour production was great, mild with a decent throat hit. Outside of my SD MKI, this is my first true 3.7V device, I was impressed. This was off a freshly charged AW RCR123a 750 mAh protected battery. I vaped for an hour or so and was truly amazed to find the battery still at 4.01V. During this session the switch fired without missing a beat. The activation of the switch is positive and does not require any amount of acrobatics to engage it, whether it be thumb activated or with any part of the index finger.

I decided I would give the 901 atty a whirl having had mixed feelings wrt the hit and miss performance of this type of atomiser. (for me anyway). I installed the extension sleeve and inserted an AW 14670 1100 mAh battery. After a couple of priming puffs, this previously finicky atomiser performed well for the duration of the cart.

Satisfied with LV production I decided to try HV. I switched over to Tenergy RCR123a 3V 900 mAh batts. I inserted the 801 adapter and screwed on a new SLB XHV 5.2 Ohm atomiser. Hit the button, nothing. Check the batts – all is well, nothing. Switched atomisers and a little something, then nothing. Tested the batteries – all is well, nothing. Changed batts – still nothing. Inserted two AWs 3.7V and re-installed the XHV atty, it fired. Sooo, I went back to my previous atty, nothing. By this time I am going WTF. Go back to the XHV and first activation of the switch the atty fires. I re-installed my 3V batts and all is well. I tried once again the standard 801 atty and it fired this time. Now I'm really scratching my head.

In retrospect this might sound comical. Remember the “class1” fit I talked about earlier, well that was the culprit. Being a cautious man, I wasn't screwing on the atomisers fully. As soon as I felt the normal resistance, a gave them just a further nudge (what we are supposed to do). That little nudge was not sufficient to properly seat the atty. Once past the resistance, the attys seat well and engage every time. The adapter threads just needed to be loosened up a little. BTW this is not a flaw, it goes to show the preciseness of the machining process. After the initial “breaking in” of the threads, all atomisers installed performed flawlessly.

This was my first experience at 6 volts and I know finally understood what folks are raving about. Vapour production was great and the throat hit enough to gag a horse – this with a 3 second hit, vaping flue cured @ 24mg. I vaped/dripped an 80/20 24mg liquid I made (Dark Vapure) during the evening and was thoroughly impressed with the performance of my lizard at 6 volts. I discovered some beautiful nuances that were not readily apparent in this liquid at 3.7V. However, one goes through an abnormal amount of liquid at 6V. I did not over drip and suffered no leakage, when flavour dissipated, I added a couple more drops and continued vaping. Having not experienced HV vaping, I was surprised at the amount of liquid consumption.

Conclusion
I will follow up at a later date with my final observations. To date the unit has performed flawlessly. The versatility of the unit with its different battery/adapter combination, makes this a good investment in my opinion. A well though out unit that should render years of satisfaction and performance.

What makes this unit special? It is a nearly an all mechanical device. Not only is it a nearly an all mechanical device, it is user serviceable. Anyone that is slightly mechanically inclined can service their own unit, to include but not limited to switch replacement. Isaac has put together a well documented and instructional tutorial on switch replacement. The switch is the only electrical component in this device, and hence its Achilles heel. Should the switch fail, Ikenvape will service it for the less mechanically inclined folks. The design is so simple, that it is a straight forward operation.

The Chameleon - follow up

2010-06-29T23:25:00.001-03:00

Preface
I received my Chameleon from IkenVape in early May. Having used this device extensively for nearly two months, in all it's configurations, I can now safely report my conclusions.

The review
As usual it came in a nice box (recyclable for future use for our doodads. The box contained:

A long and a short sleeve with end cap (extension sleeve is an extra)
The switch unit
A top cap
3 atomiser adapters (510, 801 and 901/808)
3 SLB HXV 5.2 Ohm atomisers (extra)

The unit was well packaged at a cost $119 USD (with extension sleeve) shipped to Canada, considering the quality and versatility of the unit, this device is a good investment in my humble opinion.

This device is amazingly small and lightweight. A mere 2 7/8” long with a diameter of just over 3/4” for 3.7V, and a mere 4 1/8” for high voltage applications. The device can be used stock with the 510, 801 and 901 atomisers, and accepts a standard 16340 or CR123 for 3.7V, a 14670 with extension sleeve for extended use at 3.7V or 2 x CR123A (protected) for high voltage applications.

The unit is slick and well built. The thread assemblies are nice and smooth and engage without difficulty, the parts are nearly seamless.

Remember the “class1” fit I talked about during my "first impressions" review. After the initial “breaking in” of the threads, all atomisers installed and performed flawlessly.

Operation - maintenance
The unit has performed near flawlessly* since acquisition. It is comfortable both as a 3.7V and 6/7V device using the myriad of adapters and battery combos. A nice feature wrt the way the atty adapters are constructed and fitted, is the way they can be accurately positioned when using flat tip carts. Unlike other devices which do not have a bottom button, the Chameleon does not require any contortions to fire the button, as the adapters can be positioned to suit your vaping style.

To this day their is no mark on the body. It is not a finger magnet, and I did perform a "key" scratch test on the body without leaving a mark. The button although easily fired, will not fire in your pocket.

The unit requires weekly maintenance for the adapters. This maintenance can be extended dependant on use, or until performance starts to drop. As brass tarnishes, it doesn't conduct as well. A quick trip in jewellery cleaner (30 seconds) once a week and all is well. I clean all threads with alcohol and re-lube with die-electric grease, or Noalox.

*Near flawless
During my weekly cleaning routine, I had cleaned all the threaded portions and the 801 adapter. Re-assembled the unit (for 6V) and went to bed. The unit worked fine (6V), prior to maintenance. The following morning, nada. Did a battery swap - nada??? Installed the AWs for 7V, and got a couple of weak hits, but - nada. Checked the atty, all is fine. Installed a couple of 16340s, a couple hits - nada. WTF over. I thought I had a problematic switch. Tried the device at 3.7V using a 16340, bingo. Fired like a champ every time. Went back to 6V - nada. Tried 14670 batt, fired for a couple of times then - nada. Re-assembled as a 3.7V device all is well, regardless of battery combo with the short sleeve. I used it for the day, no problem. It hit every time.

The small sleeve hadn't been cleaned as I was using the unit as a 6V device, huuum. Applied die-electric grease to the extension sleeve threads, and bingo, it fired flawlessly. After a couple of days, it started to hit erratically again. I proceeded to clean it, and alll worked well once again. Again, after a couple of hours the unit would misfire, went back to 3.7V and all is well, finished the day in that mode. The following day, went back to the extension sleeve on fresh batts - nada. So we have a conductivity problem as even the 14670 would not fire the atty, and appeared to giggle a little more than usual.

I took out a set of verniers and decided I was going to shorten the extension sleeve, as the short sleeve performed flawlessly, but it was hit and miss with the extension sleeve. A point to note: Although the unit came with an o-ring, my application does not necessitate it's use. Having confirmed that there would be sufficient material available, I sanded off about 0.010" off both ends using figure 8s on extra fine emery cloth.

Note: For folks that do not have a machinist background, it is quite common to have blueprints depict longitudinal tolerances (length) as +/- 0.010-15". Knowing this, that is the reason why I reduced the length of the tube. During an exchange with Isaac at IkenVape, the o-ring was supplied to compensate for different battery lengths and is only required by some. That is when the longitudinal tolerance light came on. The thickness of the cardboard for a Canadian pack of smokes is 0.013" so that gives you an idea of how small the tolerances are. I cleaned the threads, re-applied die electric grease and the unit has not missed a beat since. This unit has been used extensively and the switch fires as the day I received it.

Performance
The unit performs flawlessly (after length adjustment). My battery configuration renders a solid day in any configuration 6-8 hrs, including 6V and sees a solid 6 at 7V. I did use the 14670 once for a day and got a solid 9hrs before I decided to place it on the charger.

Conclusion
To date the unit has performed to near perfection. The versatility of the unit with its different battery/adapter combination, makes this a good investment in my opinion. A well though out unit that should render years of satisfaction and performance.

What makes this unit special? It is a nearly an all mechanical device. Not only is it a nearly an all mechanical device, it is user serviceable. Anyone that is slightly mechanically inclined can service their own unit, to include but not limited to switch replacement. Isaac has put together a well documented and instructional tutorial on switch replacement. The switch is the only electrical component in this device, and hence its Achilles heel. Should the switch fail, Ikenvape will service it for the less mechanically inclined folks. The design is so simple, that it is a straight forward operation.

I endorse previous recommendations with regards to this unit. The Chameleon is a solid 8.5 in my opinion:

Slight inconsistencies/differences in the oxidising process of the different parts - minus 0.5;
Electrical switch - minus 0.5; and
Requirement to adjust length - minus 0.5

These may appear to some as negatives, but pale in comparison to some of the more serious reported flaws out there wrt devices straight out of the box.

Disclaimer
The length adjustment where I had to deduct points because I had to shorten it, is/was not a flaw as I am pretty sure the tube fell within design specifications and tolerances.

Customer service and support from IkenVape has been second to none. He treats his customers like members of his own family, something we see far too little of these days. The only improvement I would suggest for this unit is an all mechanical switch, then it would not only be versatile, it would be bullet proof.

The Stick - follow up

2010-04-18T17:02:00.005-03:00

It's been a month since my I offered my first impression and today is time for a follow up. I purchased the unit for the following reasons:

Although it comes with a standard JoyE 302 atomizer, it will accept the BE112 and 801 atomizers;
As well the 510 can be used with an adapter;
It comes with 320 mAh batteries, when compared with the 510s @ 180 mAh;
It is only slightly bigger than a USB thumb-drive. It is nice and compact and the cartridge only produces from the box 1 inch. Overall dimensions are 3" L x 1" W x 11/16" thick for the unit and 4" L to the tip of the cart (with the 302 atty); and
It looks slick and could be passed off as a "personal medical vaporizer" without any difficulty, while in public. Nobody (the average Joe) should ever mistake it for what it truly is. Stealth vaping should not present a problem.

During the review the stock atty is apparently difficult to get properly seated. I did not find this to be the case on mine. Having received my hardware shipment, I have yet to find an atty that was difficult to screw in secure.

The unit is well built and the button only a slight protrusion and has enough stiffness that it should not accidentally go off in your pocket. This unit goes everywhere I go and I have not had one fire in my pocket.The button can be pressed from either the top with your index finger or the bottom with your thumb. The latter is the proper way to activate the unit and the units compactness permits stealth vaping in this fashion. I do not have big hands and I have no problem concealing the unit while vaping. Concealing the unit does not add any discomfort what so ever. I have used it extensively in stealth situations without any problem

Although the unit performed well with the pre-filled carts, decent TH and vapour, it lacked when I vaped my own liquids. I decided to measure the resistance across the atty and found it to be 3.7 Ohms, not surprising. This is no longer an issue. The proper batting in the cart provides a cooler pleasurable vape. This device is used for my quiet evening vapes. I enjoy it so much, that I recently acquired a second one in a "Pay it forward transaction".

The draw on the unit was nice and easy, a little too easy for my liking, but it might be something I get use to. I can't wait to try it with different atty combination and especially a low resistance 510. This statement was made unknowingly. The low resistance (LR) atomizer draws too much current for the battery. A minimum of 440 mAh is recommended to fire a LR atty.

The cartridge size like any pen style carts can hold allot of liquid. The carts performed well with the stock batting and to date I have seen no reason to modify the filler. This was not the case and I have since modified the filling to regular poly-fill batting with success. The proper amount ensures adequate wicking to the atomizer without creating a flooded condition.

Dripping on this unit with the stock atty is OK, but not anything to write home about. This was also mentioned in the review I had seen. The down side to dripping with this unit, you have to drip either using the tip that comes with the atty or a T tip. The 302 atty only protrudes 3/16" pass the body of the unit. Dripping with this unit is pointless in my opinion, and I have since ceased that practice. It's principal purpose in my arsenal is for stealth applications.

First Impressions
The unit is slick and priced right, $71 USD shipped to Canada. It performs as expected. The atomizer is becoming seasoned and improving with age. I still do not like this atomizer and once I receive my remaining hardware will retire this one as a spare. This was a known fact prior to purchase. I have used it both with a 510 and an 801, each have their individual applications where they can be enjoyed in the proper setting, and mood.

I will follow up with a complete review in a couple of weeks. My first impressions are that this is a well built and decently priced unit. Once the proper atty combination is found, I have no doubt this unit will be a good performer. This unit performs as expected with the exception of battery life, which in all honesty is commensurate with a AAA battery. However, decent battery life can be expected out of this unit 2.5-3hrs.

This was an excellent purchase. I chose the V2 over the V3 because it is my experience that rubberised coatings wear off after a period. It was also said that the switch might have been modified etc... I don't know.

This unit performed so well that when the opportunity arose in acquiring a second unit, I didn't hesitate. Would I spend another $70 to acquire one? In all honesty no. Am I pleased with my purchase? An emphatic yes! The clip-on belt case is a nice feature for summer excursions.

If there is to be a downside to the stick, like many devices it would be the battery. Battery life is better than a stock 510 battery, but at the end of the day performs like a AAA. In this instance, size does matter.

The MKI Screwdriver - follow up

2010-04-17T15:05:00.007-03:00

I have been using this device for two weeks. I believe the time is right to provide a follow up to my first impressions.

Follow up from - First Impressions
The unit is slick and priced reasonably at $122 shipped to Canada from the UK. It did not perform as expected with the mini, but performed well with the 510 atomiser fitted. The stock (RN4075) atomisers are not becoming seasoned nor improving with age. I have tried to season them on regulated 3.7 volt devices to no avail. I have varied the cart filling with various known cartridge modifications (cart mods) to no avail.

The JoyE 510 is a hard hitting atomizer, capable of producing great vapour and throat hit (TH). It is also referred to as a relatively hot atomizer. A stock 510 atty runs with a 2.5 Ohm resistance when compared to the 801 and 901 which in turn have resistances varying between 3.3 and 3.7 Ohms. This in turn will run the atty cooler. In doing so, vapour production and TH are also diminished, providing for a cooler more flavourful and somewhat wetter/milder vape. This type of experience is welcome at times, and why I ordered the SD with the RN4075 connection.

After two weeks, the RN4075 is still not on my list of favourite atties. Although, I was able to troubleshoot the RN4075 atomizers with a few on line members, the atty has a steep learning curve, at least for me. The delicate balance between the atomizer being "just wet" (read moist) and flooded is a matter of one drop. It seems my frustrations stem from user error more than anything else.

To further complicate things, the filling contained in the carts as shipped is inadequate for proper wicking. Based on the finicky nature of the atomiser itself, this only compounds the frustration. When the atty is producing, it produces a pleasant experience. On the other hand once that balance is lost, the experience turns into a nightmare.

In concluding our atomizer discussion, it is my recommendation to anyone that has not previously tried a particular atomiser to either buy or borrow an adapter and try them out on their own equipment vice purchasing a new device fitted with an untried atomizer fitting. It will save disappointment and frustrations.

Disappointments

The batteries are overrated and their longevity falls way short from the advertised 1000 mAh expectations;
The charger barely holds the battery in place (not enough tension) which makes it difficult to use in any position off horizontal. Even after gently prying/bending the contacts closer;
The charger is inadequate to charge the 16340s - 6-8 hrs plus to charge a battery from dead. I use my multi charger with better results, although nothing to write home about. On one occasion the battery was in the charger for over 8hrs. I took it out and checked the voltage 4.1 volts. The charger's light never changed. I do not like nor trust this charger, and would definitely not recommend it's use to anyone (especially with non-protected batteries). The battery on a different occasion re-charged in 6 hrs from dead on my own charger;
The unit cannot be pocketed perse without unscrewing the atomiser as the button is too delicate. This has been addressed if - you want to use the neck lanyard, but there are occasions the last thing I want is a screwdriver hanging from my neck. I have since made a button protector, similar to the one available with the MKII from an 801 cart protector.

The batteries are still very much a disappointment. Following recommendations I used the nano charger exclusively, because I was convinced that the nano would provide a better charge than my "multi, fast charger". I found this not to be the case. batteries last at best 4-5 hrs between recharge cycles, regardless of charger used. Charge time from dead 8-9 hrs.

I have new batteries on order and should it prove different, I will update my review. having multiple chargers in use is not an option in my humble opinion.

With regards to the button protector, the cap did not serve it's purpose as intended (to prevent accidental firing of the atty while pocketed). My solution was to purchase a spring with slightly more resistance for my second unit. I have not modified the one I use at home, but the one I take with me has a stiffer spring. This slight modification has been satisfactory to date. The vendors recommendations with regards to spring tension was to use the case provided or the neck lanyard. The latter did not solve the problem (more on vendor experience later on).

Some final thoughts - The unit performs as expected for a 3.7V device. Not being an HV (high voltage) vaper, it has a place in my daily arsenal. I ordered the MKI because I was under the impression (from the vendors site) that the MKI was retro-fitted to incorporate the modifications of the MKII with the exception of the new battery. This is not so:

The MKI does not have the switch cover, nor the extra battery capacity;
However in all fairness the o-rings which I believe are indeed part of the MKII and the MKII switch form part of the unit; (the vendor states the MKII is not fitted with the o-rings, yet the review I saw on the MKII from Totally Wicked does)
The information contained on the main site with regards to spare parts is ambiguous at best, with regards to what fits what, unlike the Totally Wicked site (their main distributor in the UK and the US) which categorically state the MKII parts with the exception of the switch, are not interchangeable; and
Certain parts can only be ordered as part of larger package deals. Totally Wicked as a vendor as been reviewed with much reservation. The fact that they do not ship to Canada makes that an unfortunate problem. Although limited parts can be ordered via e-mail, from the main distributor. Ordering from the UK can become expensive. Fortunately, the screwdriver is well designed and should provide many hours of continuous use without failure. The Achilles heal if I can find one would be the "top cap". In my humble opinion that is the only "spare part" on the unit that could/would need replacement. The former switch is said to have been problematic and was replaced with a totally mechanical one. There is absolutely nothing that could possibly go wrong there and should the spring fail (weakest component) another spring can be had relatively easy and acquired locally.

It is a little pre-mature to offer a thorough review with regards to the SD. I will do a follow up at a later date as these are just my first impressions. However, I believe the developers sat far too long on a great product, enjoying the fruits of their labour vice improving the device, in doing so, I further believe they would have earned a greater market share, with some very minor tweaks.

I will not deny the fact that my experience with the owner has been anything but pleasant. hee hee. I will leave things at that for the benefit of all.

My conclusion is that the Screwdriver manufactured by Trog is a great device and in no way should be compared with the DSE 905, the Nomad etc... there is only one Screwdriver, and it works.

That being said it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the business plan of the Screwdriver. I purchased the SD MKI because I could not get a MKII shipped to Canada. From the Screwdriver site, I was under the impressions that former models were retrofitted to incorporate the MKII modifications with the exception of the battery case and top plate. This is not really so unusual, as other vendors/manufacturers have done similarly in the past as well.

A promotion was carried out for a period of time, in which the first 50 customers received a spare body with any full kit purchased (this promotion was extended however). A two for one sale is always tempting. Will the Screwdriver site carry spares in the future, that is any one's guess.

Outside of the promotion, which is now over, I can't fully endorse purchasing a MKI when the MKII sells for the same price, with a larger battery capacity. Should someone want a piece of history, then by all means order both, albeit the MKII is beefier and of course heavier.

There's a consensus of "why change something that isn't broke". True, but the Studebaker has long been a part of history. A good device that never kept up with the times! Well it did, it became the MKII. I believe the vendor did not take too kindly to my remark of the "Studebaker". That is indeed unfortunate, because although it might have been interpreted as an insult - it was probably the best compliment he could have received hee hee.

Disclaimer
The views expressed in both my reviews are my own impressions and opinions. They are honest reflections of what I think of a product with out all the fanfare that is usually associated with product reviews.

The MKI Screwdriver - first impressions

2010-04-17T13:45:00.020-03:00

After seeing this device reviewed by several people, I just knew I had to have one. The reasons are as follows:

The device is adaptable, therefore can use a variety of atomisers;
It is solidly built and has a proven track record; and
Comes with a common 1000 mAh battery.

The Screwdriver (SD) from Trog is not to be mistaken with the DSE-905 which is a Chinese knock off. This is the real McCoy. It is surprisingly small all things considered. Until you actually hold one in your hand, it is hard to fathom how tiny this thing actually is. Lengthwise it is the same length (excluding the button) as the eGo by Janty. Its girth at the maximum width (about the same place where the eGo button is) is 13/16". The ergonomics of the device will situate the ridge between your index and middle finger, when the button rests on the pinky. Holding or vaping on the device is comfortable.

The review
Unlike most kits when purchased, the SD did not come packaged in a box, but bubble wrap. It was however well packaged, thus protecting the parts from banging with each other. The contents were also contained in a bubble wrap envelop, I would have preferred a "shipping box". The package contained the following:

2 body assemblies (one was part of a promotion) fitted with selected connector;
2 16340 unprotected batteries rated at 1000 mAh;
2 RN4075 atomisers (my selection) also known as the minis or 901s complete with tips;
2 spare cartridges (carts) filled with SD liquid (which is a Flue cured variant);
1 15ml SD liquid;
1 "nano" single battery charger;
1 wrist lanyard;
1 neck lanyard;
1 carrying case; and
A set of instructions.

The unit comes ready to go. Since there was no special instructions with regards to the batteries and, since both tested out at 4 volts, I slid one into the unit, screwed on the atomiser (atty) without any difficulty and inserted a pre-filled cart. After priming the atty with a couple of drops of the SD liquid I vaped away. There was no foul taste we sometimes experience with new atties. The SD cart was good, providing a mild TH and decent vapour. The unit provided 3 or 4 decent hits then died off. The unit is well built and the button only requires slight pressure from the pinky to activate the atomiser. It is reported that the button's spring tension is a mere 100g.

After checking out the batteries on a multi-meter and confirming power was still available (3.87 Volts), and checking that the cart contained liquid and priming once again the atomiser, I gave it another whirl. Again 2-3 decent hits, and then it would die off.

Frustrated, having the necessary adapter, I installed a 510 atty and the unit performed flawlessly. I re-installed the RN4075 with the same results as before. Here we go again... So I decided to install a fresh 510 atomiser and use the cart that came with the unit. The cart performed flawlessly, and vapour was excellent. Conclusion - unless the RN4075 is primed just right, it will not energise properly. I tried the other atomiser that came with the kit, with the same results. Now I wish I had ordered the unit with the 510 connection.

In all fairness the RN4075 provides a cooler vape ideal for first thing in the morning with the supplied liquid, which I utilised the following morning intermittently. Regardless of the variations I performed the following morning the RN4075 was still asleep. I have more atties coming and will try those, when they arrive. To date (almost a week) I cannot get these atties to perform.

First Impressions
The unit is slick and priced reasonably at $122 shipped to Canada from the UK. It did not perform as expected with the mini, but performed well with the 510 atomiser fitted. The stock (RN4075) atomisers are not becoming seasoned nor improving with age. I have tried to season them on regulated 3.7 volt devices to no avail. I have varied the cart filling with various known cartrige modifications (cart mods) to no avail.

Disappointments

The batteries are overrated and their longevity falls way short from the advertised 1000 mAh expectations;
The charger barely holds the battery in place (not enough tension) which makes it difficult to use in any position off horizontal. Even after gently prying/bending the contacts closer;
The charger is inadequate to charge the 16340s - 6-8 hrs plus to charge a battery from dead. I use my multi charger with better results, although nothing to write home about. On one occasion the battery was in the charger for over 8hrs. I took it out and checked the voltage 4.1 volts. The charger's light never changed. I do not like nor trust this charger, and would definitely not recommend it's use to anyone (especially with non-protected batteries). The battery on a different occasion re-charged in 6 hrs from dead on my own charger;
The unit cannot be pocketed perse without unscrewing the atomiser as the button is too delicate. This has been addressed if - you want to use the neck lanyard, but there are occasions the last thing I want is a screwdriver hanging from my neck. I have since made a button protector, similar to the one available with the MKII from an 801 cart protector.

Pros

The unit feels and looks well made. The ergonomics make the device a pleasure to vape;
The battery slips into the unit effortlessly and does not have any exaggerated movement within the sleeve. This is accomplished with a o-ring fitted above the switch at the bottom of the battery carrier;
The SD now comes fitted with an all mechanical switch which is stock on the MKII; and
The top spring is said to act as a fuse, should an atomiser short circuit occur. Also fitted in the top cover is another o-ring which maintains the battery in proper alignment against the spring.

Some final thoughts - The unit performs as expected for a 3.7V device. Not being an HV (high voltage) vaper, it has a place in my daily arsenal. I ordered the MKI because I was under the impression (from the vendors site) that the MKI was retro-fitted to incorporate the modifications of the MKII. This is not so:

It does not have the switch cover, nor the extra battery capacity;
However in all fairness the o-rings which I believe are indeed part of the MKII and the MKII switch form part of the unit;
The information contained on the site with regards to spare parts is ambiguous at best, with regards to what fits what, unlike the Totally Wicked site (their main distributor in the UK and teh US); and
Certain parts can only be ordered as part of larger package deals.

The Safe Cig

2010-03-18T16:49:00.002-03:00

The Safe Cig was my first experience to e-smoking. As a Canadian (prior to the forums) finding a source that shipped to Canada was not easy.

The safe cig received an overall rating of 5 from Here. The site promoted the 2 part system more than anything else, therefore as a neophyte I have to give them a 5 for marketing.

Review
The company is based in Los Angeles and shipping to the East end of Canada is 7-10 days, pretty reasonable all things considered. The downside, you need to make sure you have enough supplies between shipments.

The manufacturer claims each cart to be the equivalent to 2 packs/day or 40 cigarettes. Being that I had reduced my smoking to below a Cdn pack (25) a day, I ordered only 5 extra cartridges with my kit, The rationale for the latter, I wanted to know if I was going to like it or not and, advertising equated that I ordered the equivalent to 20 packs of smokes, give or take. Yup! that should do me until I re-order. Wrong!

Carts
The cartridges do not represent 2 packs/day as advertised. Although they do state in the manual, that the life expectancy of a cart is dependant on use - which is between 7-12 drags every half hour. I smoked 1/2 cig, 3-4 times/hr (winter), full cigs every 20 minutes or so (summer).

The manufacturer recommendation of 7-12 drags at 30 minute intervals is to allow the built atomizer to rest and, extending battery life. It is more to do with the atomizer than battery life.

2 part systems are convenient, screw/replace a cart on the battery and you are on your way to enjoying an e-cig. The atomizers in this type of system (cartomizer) are designed to be disposed of, once the cart is no longer producing vapour, or you have noticed large decreases of vapour production etc... you will know when it is time to replace the cart. Therefore, longer rest periods between vaping sessions are required - e.g, "resting your e-cig for 30 minutes between sessions. Huuuum!

Because I am trying to quit smoking I also reduced my hourly intake to assist towards an end date. 30 minutes between sessions is too long. I reduced my smoking/vaping frequency to 20 minutes, which in turn meant I had an hourly analog. Not to bad all things considered but you're not "smoke free". The other alternative is to purchase another battery - which I did. This way I can vape every 20 minutes 10-12 hits per session, allowing the cartomizers to cool for 40 minutes between sessions.

All carts received and used performed as expected (no bad ones).

Cons
Unlike systems that use a separate atomizer and cartridge, there is nowhere for the condensation (created with vaping) to go in a cartomizer. Therefore you will get leakage through the mouth piece. In the beginning I attributed this to faulty cartomizers, not so. After receiving and vaping on my 510, now I know why the Safe Cig leaks.

It is recommended never to store the Safe Cig upright, to prevent possible leakage. Yup, that makes sense, especially with automatic batteries. They further recommend that while travelling to and from, the carts and batteries remain separate, to ensure no leakage. Between sessions, it is recommended that the device be laid on it's side. Therefore a little inconvenient, as you can't really just put it in your shirt pocket between sessions.

I ordered my kit with a case (the generic one's we see). That allowed storage when away from home. I used to place my batteries (2) and carts (2) in the case so they would drain if any leakage was to occur - IOW, receiving end of the battery, and the battery end of the cart pointing down when the case is upright in a shirt pocket. I never found any evidence of leakage.

Cost of cartridges is $2.50 USD/per. At the advertised cigarette equivalent, this seems like a reasonable price. However, smoking 2 carts/day + shipping + and original outlay - not allot of savings to be had, but they are a safer alternative.

Carts only come in 3 flavours: tobacco, marlboro and menthol. The menthol is a joke and tobacco is not even close, but the marlboro is definitely close to an analog. They come in 0, 11, 14 and 18mg nicotine. Base on the cost per cartridge, the zero nicotine is not really an option.

Batteries
Out of the box, ready to go! Although I found that the batteries will charge in 90 minutes to 2 hours, overnight is best. The latter is difficult with only one charger. Typical charge the batteries will last 6-8 hrs per. They defrag themselves after 1500 hits and have an auto shut off after 6 seconds. Should you exceed 16 drags in one minute the battery will warn you to slow down. Two batts will last the day. You do need a third one ready to go when you get home though.

Cons
They are rather expensive at $30 USD.

In closing this system receives an overall rating of 3.5-4, not the five it has received. I believed the folks that reviewed the Safe Cig were biased.

However, based on what I have read, it is one of the good ones out there although a little pricey for upkeep (carts & extra batteries).

Since acquiring my 510 this has become my back up system This will also be the system I will rely on when travelling, especially for air travel considering current travel regulations. This system cannot be mistaken for use other than a smoking alternative. If you are travelling for extended periods, pack your normal daily fare in your checked baggage.

Something I have come across quite a few times during reaserach and discussions and, I do not like where this may be heading, some folks are defending their high prices with " It's still cheaper than analogs". Considering some of these prices, the wise informed shopper can find some good deals out there at reasonable cost. When compared to other 2 part systems, the Safe Cig falls in the ball park as a kit, but not as a smoking alternative in my opinion.

The Janty Stick V2

2010-03-18T16:47:00.004-03:00

After seeing this device reviewed by several people, I just knew I had to have one. The reasons are as follows:

Although it comes with a standard JoyE 302 atomiser (atty), it will accept the BE112 and 801 atomisers, as well as the 510 with an adapter. During the review the stock atty is apparently difficult to get properly seated. I did not find this to be the case on mine.

It comes with 320 mAh batteries, when compared with the 510s @ 180 mAh, that was a plus.

It is slightly bigger than a USB thumb-drive. It is nice and compact and the cartridge only produces from the box 1 inch. Overall dimensions are 3" L x 1" W x 11/16" thick for the unit and 4" L to the tip of the cart (with the 302 atty).

It looks slick and could be passed off as a "personal medical vaporizer" without any difficulty, while in public. Nobody (the average Joe) should ever mistake it for what it truly is. Stealth vaping should not present a problem.

The review
As usual it came in a nice box (recyclable for future use for our do-dads. The box contained:

The unit
2 10440 protected batteries rated at 320 mAh
1 JoyE 302 atomizer and tip
5 spare carts (Marlboro)
1 USB cable to charge the batteries
1 user manual
1 Belt clip case, that accepts not only the unit but the atty.

The unit comes ready to go. Since there was no special instructions with regards to the batteries, I slid one into the battery compartment. I inserted the atomizer without any difficulty and inserted a pre-filled cart after priming the atty with a couple of drops of PG.

There was no foul taste as some have experienced with new attys. The Marlboro cart was relatively good, all things considered, since I am not a fan of Marlboro e-juice.

The unit is well built and the button only a slight protrusion and has enough stiffness that it should not accidentally go off in your pocket. The button can de depressed from either the top with your index finger or the bottom with your thumb. The latter is the proper way to activate the unit and the units compactness permits stealth vaping in this fashion. I do not have big hands and I have no problem concealing the unit while vaping. Concealing the unit does not add any discomfort what so ever.

Although the unit performed well with the pre-filled carts, decent TH and vapour, it lacked when I vaped my own juices. I decided to measure the resistance across the atty and found it to be 3.7 Ohms, not surprising.

When compared to the 510, the stock atty and unit do not become hot, even with chain vaping. This was a known fact at the time of purchase and hence why I ordered some 801s and BE112s which have a proven track record. The vapour is also relatively cool when compared against a 510.

The draw on the unit was nice and easy, a little too easy for my liking, but it might be something I get use to. I can't wait to try it with different atty combination and especially a low resistance 510.

A nice feature with regards to charging the unit, the battery can remain in the unit when charging through the USB port on any PC. This unit can also be recharge from any suitable USB charger. Because the battery remains encapsulated, the unit can be used as a pass-thru while charging @ 3.7V, something I did not know at the time of purchase but was contained in the user's manual. The unit vapes well while plugged into a USB wall adapter. That being the case, it should also perform well while travelling in a vehicle.

The cartridge size like any pen style carts can hold allot of liquid. The carts performed well with the stock batting and to date I have seen no reason to modify the filler.

Dripping on this unit with the stock atty is OK, but not anything to write home about. This was also mentioned in the review I had seen. The down side to dripping with this unit, you have to drip either using the tip that comes with the atty or a T tip. The 302 atty only protrudes 3/16" pass the body of the unit.

First Impressions
The unit is slick and priced right, $71 USD shipped to Canada. It performs as expected. The atomiser is becoming seasoned and improving with age. I still do not like this atomiser and once I receive my remaining hardware will retire this one as a spare. This was a known fact prior to purchase.

Some dis-advantages besides the atomiser, it should have come with a spare atomizer. Care must be taken when replacing the battery not to loose the battery cover. The plus side - these covers are available as spare parts. The battery is relatively simple to replace, once the atty has been removed from the unit. The latter is an inconvenience rather than a negative.

I will follow up with a complete review in a couple of weeks. My first impressions are that this is a well built and decently priced unit. Once the proper atty combination is found, I have no doubt this unit will be a good performer.

The other reason I purchased the unit (besides keeping all my parts interchangeable) is once the availability of low resistance attys (1.2 -1.5 Ohms) becomes wide spread - this unit with low R attys performs like a 5V. Although my ratings are low at this point, I am confident they will increase by the time I am ready for my final review. A good investment thus far.

My Happy eGo

2010-03-18T16:45:00.002-03:00

The eGo is manufactured by JoyE (OEM) and distributed by vendors with their unique individual logos. Hence, why mine is the Happy eGo, but an/"the" eGo nonetheless. Janty is the developer, all eGos are created the same. So should some vendor say he has the "original eGo" that is purely a marketing strategy. Shop around for the best buy.

It came in the usual self-contained box. In which:

2 x eGo Batteries 3.7V (650 mAh)
1 x eGo 510 atomizer (JoyE)
1 x eGo Atomizer Cover
1 x Fast USB Wall Charger (420 mA)
1 x USB wall plug adapter *
5 x spare cartridges
1 x eGo Carrying Pouch
1 x eGo User Manual

First impressions
The eGo was ready to go straight out of the box. The atomizer is an original and not a clone. I filled up a cart with some 555 and dripped a few drops on the atty. Place the cart in the atty and screwed on the atomizer cover over the atty.

I took a nice slow hit, not too long, but long enough and I nearly gagged when I inhaled. Not because of the atty primer we sometimes hear about, but because of the amount of vapour it generated in just a few seconds. The throat hit is decent and vapour production great.

What is the purpose of the atomizer cone? Well it makes the unit look slick. But there is more to it than that. I helps maintain a insulated environment for the atomizer to operate. It also restricts the draw. The latter is not a fault but a benefit. There is no sucking sound when the unit is operated, unlike what we hear when using the standard 510. The draw is pleasant and similar to the Stick's draw with a stock 302. The difference, the atty performs like a 510, giving plenty of flavour, throat hit and vapour.

I recently reviewed the "Stick" in which I wasn't too fussy on the 302's performance, and couldn't wait to adapt a 510 in my stick. The draw on the stick is very similar to the eGO, and I believe that I will be pleased when I use my "stick" with a 510 atty.

I ordered my eGo in Stainless because of the clean look to it, and that because under review I gather that the paint chips on the coloured ones. Because of the classy lines of this unit, I wanted the class to last. This is the type of device that one vapes while wearing a suit.

I also like that the atomizer cover, covers the entire atty and extends 1mm pass the atomizer. What does this mean? Well I vape several flavours a day and have several atty/cart combos of varying colour. Because the atty is hidden, all one sees is a beautiful shiny unit with a tip.

* A point to note: The eGo comes complete with a wall adapter and specific USB charger capable of charging the 650 mAh batteries. IAW the user's manual, this charger combination cannot and should not be used to charge 510 batteries or destroy the batteries in the process.

I am not sure what would happen in reverse if one was to use the 510 charger to charge the eGo batts, it would probably take forever. As the kit comes with the necessary charging accouterments, one should use those that came with the kit. Since they look identical, I would label both the charger and USB cable, or paint eGo on them, and keep 'me as a unit separately.

Overall I am quite happy with this purchase and what I especially like about the unit - it stand

2 or 3 part systems?

2010-03-01T19:13:00.020-04:00

What should I get, a 2 or 3 part system, and what is the difference?

I guess one might say it depends on what you are looking for, but it goes deeper than that. In this entry I will be discussing the pros and the cons of each, so at least you have an idea on what to get. Well not really. If you are here, unless you came in via one of the Bonsai Forums I participate in, you probably already have a system. On the other hand if you were merely lurking and have stumbled upon this blog, then it might be useful.

In order to chose a personal vaporizer (PV) or electronic cigarette (Ecig), you might want to decide what it will be used for. Is it to become an alternate lifestyle or is it to be used as a smoking cessation device?

There has been a lot of marketing promoting the two part system. I will refrain from quoting them directly, as I believe in free enterprise. There are a lot of folks out there who have jumped on this little band wagon, as the second coming of the gold rush. To the uninformed, the choice is overwhelming, the use of acronyms enough to make your head spin, in turn leading you to total confusion and frustration and out to the garage for a smoke (analog).

The two part system

As seen in the above photo, this is a typical 2 part e-cigarette - it's comprised of a battery and a cartridge, also known as a "cartomizer", because the atomizer (the thing that produces the vapor, is integral with the cartridge, where the liquid (nicotine) filled batting is contained).

A very simple system and set up. You purchase a starter kit that varies in price from $50 - $150. Yup! I've seen them that high. I have seen markup from merchant ranging from 200-800%, and getting away with it. The smart consumer hits the forums first, and asks a bunch a questions. Folks are more than willing to share information especially with regards to the many pitfalls that are out there. Why is this information so free flowing? We are here to help each other out in over coming our own personal addiction. Think of it as a support group.

Most starter kits will come with all you need:

usually 2 batteries (some suppliers will actually prime them for you (pre-charge) so you are ready to go when you receive your kit;
1 wall charger and or a USB charger;
5-10 cartridges filled with a nicotine level of your choice, but usually medium 11-16mg and some offer a flavour selection between mild, marlboro and menthol to get you going; and
a users manual

Most vendors state that one cartridge is the equivalent of 10-15 cigarettes, some even boast they are equivalent "theirs" to two packs of cigarettes (40 smokes). Regardless of who the vendor is, all pre-filled cartridges fall short of the mark. Many state that it depends on the amount of "puffs" you take, (hits in vaping), but in all fairness most will indeed be equivalent to 10 regular cigarettes. So be prepared to buy extra.

The three part sysytem

In the three part system the atomizer that formed part of the cartridge in the two part system, is separate in this system and therefore not disposable, but with proper care and maintenance can/will last a long time. Although theses cartridges come pre-filled as the two part system, you can order unfilled cartridges, purchase and fill with e-liquid of your choosing, and more often than not at higher nicotine levels and flavours.

A typical starter kit is comprised of:

usually 2 batteries (some suppliers will actually prime them for you (pre-charge) so you are ready to go when you receive your kit;
one atomizer
1 wall charger and or a USB charger;
5-10 cartridges filled with a nicotine level of your choice, but usually medium 11-16mg and some offer a flavour selection between mild, marlboro and menthol to get you going; and
a users manual

... an electronic device

Unlike the other two system, this device (a 3 part system) does not resemble a cigarette, but rather a pen-like device. Most folks who switch over more often than not will chose a device that mimics a cigarette as in the other two pictures. Most serious or seasoned vapers wish do distance themselves as much as they can from the real thing.

Not because they are not comfortable with the fact of vaping on a device that looks like a cigarette, but because they want to make sure that their PV, is not mistaken for a cigarette when vaping in public. Yup! you heard me vaping in public places.

We have been ostracized by the community at large for our addiction, an addiction that was induced in us over time, although I will agree that no one held a gun to our head when we decided to start smoking. Regardless - too many, vaping a cigarette is just taboo, but are inquisitive when you are vaping from a device that produces what appears to be smoke without actually burning or producing the foul stench of a cigarette. These devices produce no smell at all, and the vapor dissipates rather readily in comparison - within a few seconds from exhalation.

No one will ever confused this device for anything else than a personal vaporizer.

Two part systems

Pros

Probably the greatest advantage of a 2 part system is the ease of use. You simply screw a cartridge on the battery, and vape away - nothing could be simpler;
Cartridges are disposable and hence do not require re-filling - no maintenance;
Great system for the occasional/low consumption consumer;
Cartridges normally come pre-filled at various nicotine levels - usually zero, low (6mg), med (11mg) and high (16mg), some offer extra high (18mg) and I even have seen 24mg;
They can come in a variety of flavours besides tobacco;
Many look like the real thing, or you can have a sleek "designer" style device; and
Come in various sizes, some are the actual size of a normal cigarette.

Cons

Can be quite expensive, depending on the manufacturer;
Life (duration) of a cartridge is no where near advertised - much shorter;
No control over cartridge quality - some have received dried out cartridges, the price of the cartridges does not justify the shipping expense to return them to the vendor;
I have found them to be leaky - the result of condensation build up in the cartridge from heating the vapour. This results in a mouthful of liquid after a couple sessions of smoking "normally" and exacerbated if smoked heavily;
Requires more than one unit - if you are a pack a day smoker or more, you will need at least 2 units, 3 is better. The manufacturer will state that the unit needs to rest at least 30 minutes between sessions. This may be alright for the occasional smoker or, someone who only lights up every hour or so. A heavy smoker will require at least 3 units, allowing the e-cig to cool between sessions. So if you smoke a cigarette every 20 minutes or so, each has had a chance to rest for 40 minutes. Regardless of how many units you use in the course of an hour, you will wind up with excessive condensation and a mouthful;
Spare cartridges come in limited flavour and nicotine content;
Although many have tried and have successfully replenished a spent cartridge, vapour production is often less than original, probably due to the performance of the "disposable" atomizer contained within the cartridge - which was not designed for extended use;
Duration of batteries (fully charged) inferior, especially when dealing with the minis and super-minis - require carrying extra batteries to see you through the course of a normal work day; and
Once again depending on the vendor, although a safer alternative, can cost as much as smoking cigarettes.

Three part systems

Pros

Greater user satisfaction;
3 part systems are dependable vapour producing machines;
They provide a greater flexibility with regards to variety of flavours offered;
They provide a greater variety of nicotine content (when mixing your own liquid);
Daily costs far less than using cartomisers;
They are relatively inexpensive when compared against 2 part systems;
Vapour production and taste outweigh by far any 2 part system out there;
A multitude of choice between standard 3.7 volt or high voltage (6Volts) systems; and
The cheapest cost/ml of liquid after initial outlay.

Cons

Unlike 2 part systems with disposable atomizers, atomizer maintenance is required. To some this represents a chore;
Greater chances of getting a bad atomizer, or one with a short life (depending on manufacturer), which in turn will increase average daily costs when compared against 2 part systems;
Initial setup cost can be higher, especially if you start mixing your own liquids;
An individual can go "mod" crazy. e.g. the grass is greener on the other side, on the constant search for a better vaping unit;
May result in a greater nicotine intake (greater vapour and flavour) causing individuals to vape more; and
Some high voltage systems require the carry of extra batteries.

In conclusion the above discussion pointed out the main differences between the 2 and 3 part systems. The 2 part system offers limited "value" and are in serious decline, hence the heavy marketing strategies from their manufacturers. Many manufacturers have abandoned the 2 part system in favour of meeting clientele demands. Most people having decided that vaping will become their alternate lifestyle will see themselves switch to a 3 part system sooner than later. Their 2 part system becoming their backup system.

The 2 part system still owns a niche among vapers: the unsure newly introduced; folks that want to keep things relatively simple; and the occasional smoker. For the ultimate in satisfaction and pure enjoyment, nothing beats the versatility of a 3 part system.

What is vaping?

2010-03-01T16:08:00.008-04:00

If smoking is the act of producing smoke than, vaping can be defined as generating vapour. But really...

Although that is the overall definition, vaping is a "chosen" lifestyle and, a much safer method of acquiring nicotine. The use of PVs or (personal vaporizers) can also be called a nicotine delivery instrument.

Although the burning of tobacco creates smoke, and harmful carbon monoxide, vaping produces water vapor. To some it might appear as smoke, but it is an odourless harmless vapor, which dissipates within seconds and with no lingering smell, unlike cigarettes.

Cigarettes when they burn not only generate smoke but the burning process of cigarettes volatilize many of the various chemical compounds contained in present day tobacco, to include but not limited to formaldehyde, ammonia and even cyanide, yup that's right cyanide. We all know what cyanide does? and... a cigarette contains another 3997 more. So what produces the vapor in an electronic cigarette or personal vaporizers? Water mixed with Propylene Glycol and flavouring.

Isn't Propylene Glycol anti-freeze? Industrial Glycol is, but check out your food labels for this stuff. It is widely used in the food industry as a food additive. It is also the base of food flavouring along with vegetable glycerin, another base component of vaping.

The stage smoke that we see, and although it has a sweet smell and totally harmless to us, is the vaporizing of vegetable glycerin. Propylene Glycol has anti-bacterial properties as well, but that is the type of information that is presently being diluted and clouded over with innuendo by the Big 3.

The World Health Organization has cautioned the world with regards to the dangers of vaporising nicotine. Uuuum, haven't we been vaporizing nicotine for years while smoking? I'm not sure which one is more harmful to our health.

Many countries have jumped on the band wagon and have banned the importation and sales of electronic cigarettes, or vaporizing devices. In Canada, the importation and sale of personal vaporizers is legal. The importation and sales of any liquid containing nicotine is not. Why?

Because nicotine is a controlled substance and in it's purest form, unrestricted use of nicotine can kill you. What is nicotine? Nicotine is a natural growing insecticide found in plants and not limited to tobacco.

In closing, can someone explain to me how can Big Pharma apply for a "vaccine" patent the year preceding the actual outbreak of the H1N1 virus? and who was leading the band again, oh yeah the WHO. Interesting...

Do you know what you are smoking? I know what I am vaping...

The Big 3

2010-03-01T15:46:00.007-04:00

The big three - who are these people?

The Big 3 are comprised of:

Government
Big Tobacco
Big Pharmacy

These three organization are in bed together and if anyone thinks they are looking after our best interests, they need to revisit their position/stance.

If smoking is so terrible to one's health, not to mention that the mere inhalation of second hand smoke from an innocent by-standard, then why is it still legal? Furthermore, why is it supported by these individuals, if it is so bad for the health of everyone at large?

Money!
the all mighty greenback

Did you know:

that Phillip Morris had reported profits of 4.5 billion in 2005;
that 1/3 of the current adult world population smoke;
that although industrial nations have seen smokers diminish, developing countries have seen a rise in the consumption of cigarettes; or
that 300 million adults smoke in China, which represents the entire population of the US?

Bet you didn't!

Follow the money...

Our collective governments would have you believe that we are the enemy, that we are causing the problem with our insistence to continue smoking. The sad truth to it all, we are only a weapon created from the hands of the Big 3, via a chemically induced cocktail.

Chosing an alternate lifestyle

2010-03-01T12:01:00.008-04:00

Hi, my name is Rick and I am a smoker,

and have been for 40 plus years.

Smoking is bad for you! Yet we all started somehow - somewhere. Once upon a time it was a socially accepted practice, as a matter of fact it was campaigned and colourfully advertised. Now "smokers" are ostracized and shun like lepers. I believe that the production of second hand smoke is as harmful to my neighbour as it is to me. Yet, cigarettes are more addictive today then they ever were and, will be even more in the future. Just ask any smoker!

In the beginning a certain pleasure could and was derived from smoking. I know in my case, it was the pleasure derived from tasting the "tobacco", long before any concerns with regards to it's addictiveness. As smoker awareness increased, many of us have tried to give up the unhealthy habit. Many doctors state that smoking is more addictive than heroin in their experience, yet smoking is a legal activity, whilst heroin is drug use. I have tried to quit in the past with marginal success and limited results.

It was relatively easy to give up smoking in the beginning. Now, from a non-smokers perspective one might say "why didn't you quit?". Well it is not as simple as it may sound or you might think. There are two addictions that need to be treated: the physiological and psychological addiction. After 10 days give or take, the body has been cleansed of all nicotine, that is the easy part. Now the hard part - the psychological part of the addiction, and the one that remains with you for the rest of your life.

Having tried on many occasions, I failed! Was I weak? Perhaps! or does it run deeper than that?

Nicotine in itself is not as addictive as we are lead to believe. I said in the beginning is was relatively easy to quit, and I should have quit years ago. Nicotine itself in the blood stream is not cumulative, never was and never will be. I use to smoke out of pleasure, now I smoked out of habit. Yes you read it right "smoked". I have been smoke free going on 6.5 days now, and do not feel the urge to smoke. Mind you I have avoided the physiological withdrawal symptoms with nicotine, but in a much healthier way. Before we go any further, please watch!

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Now you know why I called it "a chemically induced cocktail". There are over 4, 000 - yes that is thousands, chemicals in cigarettes. Can any one please tell me what role formaldehyde plays in cigarettes?

During the video they explained that the addition of ammonia into the "mother liquid" increase the absorption rate of nicotine into the bloodstream. They never really discussed the other 3998 chemicals, have they? Well it's because they don't want anyone to really know, what is going on. They are not just manipulating the absorption rate of nicotine, but also playing with electro-transmissions in the brain and other parts of the body, etc... These chemically induced "short circuits" for the lack of a better word, results in the deep seeded need for these chemical replacements not only psychologically, but physiologically as well. Remember, once rid of nicotine, about 10 days give or take, the body no longer "craves or needs it". It is the rest of God knows what that produces the cravings, hence, why it was easier to quit long ago, vice now.

Some may argue that it is because we have "smoked" for so long that it takes longer to quit. Nope! But unlike nicotine which is a mild addictive chemical in comparison, the others more so and cumulative at that.

Vaping or e smoking, or electronic cigarette smoking is an alternate safer way to overcome nicotine addiction. It is not to be interpreted as a "smoking cessation" device, but rather a safe nicotine delivery system. Some have indeed ceased smoking altogether using this method, others - merely as a means to fulfill their nicotine addiction with a safer alternative.

A new day, a new way!